Pink Floyd The Wall - CD from Harvest/EMI - Could be best ever.

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  1. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only. Thread Starter

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    South Plymouth, Ma
    I've owned "most every common issue" of Pink Floyd's The Wall, including the Sony MD set.

    This has got to be the best sounding CD version ever, better than the CBS/Sony/Columbia issues, even the Capitol and the MFSL.

    The issue is the normal UK/Holland "two-line" face with "Harvest" logo at 12-o-clock and the discs look like they're done by EMI Swindon. Plenty of dynamic snap, awesome stereo image, solid bottom end without being flabby and no "pop" on "Comfortably Numb". Sounds like it was recorded yesterday. All the Ezrin elements come through in amazing clarity.

    I'll post scans later. Sounds near-perfect. :) Wow.
     
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  2. YaQuin

    YaQuin Formerly Blue Moon

    Location:
    Madison, WI
    Sckott, would you be able to provide us with a scan of the disc and the cover? Thank you.
     
  3. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only. Thread Starter

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    Yep.

    It's basically the UK issue that was available in the UK between 1989-1993? Around that time? The index points on the songs are in wild places, sometimes before or after you'd expect them to be at....

    More to come....
     
  4. bresna

    bresna Senior Member

    Location:
    York, Maine
    If it's the same mastering as my original Japanese Harvest CDs, then I agree that the mastering is very good. I sold my MFSL CDs because they couldn't touch the Harvest. The signal level is very low which never bothers me but it might others.

    BTW, I have a scan of my disc in this thread.

    Kevin
     
  5. pig whisperer

    pig whisperer CD Member

    Location:
    Tokyo, Japan
    Have you compared it with the Canadain (and/or other countries) C2K-36183 first release version from the eighties? (My brother has it, but I can't remember is it is Columbia or Capital, etc.)
     
  6. KeithH

    KeithH Success With Honor...then and now

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    Sckott, interesting observations. Many folks here have expressed a preference for the original CBS/Sony (Columbia) versions. I have Japanese and West German pressings on Harvest that I have not listened to in awhile As I recall, they sound identical, but I should give them a spin again. I've listened to the old Columbia set a good bit lately and have been impressed with it.
     
  7. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only. Thread Starter

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    Kevin's disc is most likely just like the one I have. His is back, mine is "white", if you will. Same catalog numbers, markings, etc. Kevin is correct; the signal is down lower than most CDs, slightly lower than most its age.

    Kevin's disc is most likely just like the one I have. His is back, mine is "white", if you will. Same catalog numbers, markings, etc.

    His is made in JPN, mine in Holland/UK. Has to be etched from the same image.

    I listen to this disc, and I don't wanna move. It's that good.

    The Columbias from the 80's all sound basically the same to me. (Sony got a remaster done before Capitol took the catalog). Good, but slightly flabby.
     
  8. 22dRow

    22dRow New Member

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    Sckott, you are correct about the original UK nonremastered Harvest Wall CD being the best, even superior to the nonremastered Columbia CD which I have a/b'd it to. On mine the index point of Comfortably Numb starts with the knocking on the door "time to go..." and does not have the pop. It retains all the dynamics of the Columbia CD with even more presence and warmth.
     
  9. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

    Location:
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    I listened to a friend's UK vinyl and it had the same effect on me. :)
     
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  10. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only. Thread Starter

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    Again, same as Kevin, totally agree.
     
  11. musicalbeds

    musicalbeds Strange but not a stranger

    Location:
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    I just picked one up last week from a second hand shop. I had told the owner to watch for copies of The Wall plain and simple...I didn't get technical with him, and to call me if one came in. I was expecting a remaster at worst, CDN non-remaster pressing at best.

    Imagine my surprise when I saw the Harvest label on the spine and opened it to find the black faced disc.

    The sound is so good I decided to sell my copy of the MFSL right away...it's that noticeable.

    I'm glad you mentioned the track listing because I noticed that as well. Isn't One Of My Turns split into two tracks? I think that leaves Young Lust and Empty Spaces on the same track.
     
  12. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only. Thread Starter

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    Yep, screwed up track positions. Young Lust shows up as 2:03 and is really the "dramatic" part of "One Of My Turns".
     
  13. musicalbeds

    musicalbeds Strange but not a stranger

    Location:
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    Yep, they have two songs thrown together on one track, then one song split into two.

    Possible reason for alternate unremastered pressings which might differ in sound, not by design, to fix that?
     
  14. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only. Thread Starter

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    What I think happened:

    In the US, CBS took the tape copies they had and sent the 1630 tapes to Japan to have them etched to glass masters along with the track positions intact, how the engineer at Columbia had things written down.

    EMI took the master tape and had the transfer done with THEIR own guessable track positions. Guy who took on the job said, "Umm, I wonder what goes where?"

    It's highly evident who had the better tape source though.
     
  15. When I first borrowed a copy of this, it was the UK/Dutch varient. It was as Sckott describes it, black type on silver; great dynamics with really nice EQ; the exploding TV sets in particular were almost frightening.

    When I got my own copy, this was the W.German "Sonopress" varient. Now, while disc 2 sounds very good, disc 1 came out somewhat lacklustre, like an ok-ish cassette dub. It also runs a little fast.

    Is it possible we can get a sample of the Dutch one at all, particularly disc 1?
     
  16. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only. Thread Starter

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    Here's a couple of visuals.
     

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  17. Wmacky

    Wmacky Forum Resident

    You guy's are going to make Dave's head explode!
     
  18. StyxCollector

    StyxCollector Man of Miracles

    Sounds is subjective. One man's trash is another man's treasure. I have the Mofi and it's good enough for me for how often I listen to it. I upgraded from the old Columbia and prefer it to that (bought the Mofi when it was new). There are no absolutes here.
     
  19. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only. Thread Starter

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    Right. Knock yourself out.

    FWIW, I think Dave was close, but hearing this, IMHO, this one's it.

    Your local air pressure, Juju and brain cells might say something else.
     
  20. dbz

    dbz Bolinhead.

    Location:
    Live At Leeds (UK)
    I have this UK Harvest version-and have loved it for years. A True Audiophile experience
     
  21. progmog

    progmog Senior Member

    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Apologies for resurrecting this thread, but I finally managed to score a copy of this UK pressing of 'The Wall'. I have been comparing it extensively with the Japan 50DP 361.2 pressing and the Columbia C2K 36183 Canadian pressing. The UK pressing topped them all - definitely the one to get :righton:
     
  22. LeeS

    LeeS Music Fan

    Location:
    Atlanta
    I'm not surprised given the quality of the DSOTM Harvest CD. I never was all that impressed with the MoFi of this album which I still have.
     
  23. floyd

    floyd Senior Member

    Location:
    Spring Green, WI
    Now let me get this straight did you compare this with the "Black face Harvest" from Japan? Mine looks just like the one in post 16 except it is silver on black and has made in Japan and BIEM/JASRAC everything else is the same. I know several members have this Black Face disc and it seems like I have always heard positive comments about it. I would think it is exactly the same as the UK .... am I right?
     
  24. John Carsell

    John Carsell Forum Resident

    Location:
    Northwest Illinois
    Neither was I Lee.

    Is this version of the UK Harvest CD of "The Wall" out-of-print?
     
  25. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

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    B.C.
    Yes John, mid 80's pressing and long gone.
     
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