Just got my canadian CD of Pink Floyd's "The Wall" - WOW!

Once again this forum has proved itself incredibly helpful at finding THE best sounding and faithful recordings. I just recieved my copy of the canadian version of Pink Floyds the Wall from a forum member ( THANKS!) And all I can say is WOW. The friggin planes on the first song sound like they are coming through my ROOF! The drums actually scared me when I put it on at the beginning. They are SO clear. I dont know if this is actually what you would say the "breath of life" is but this album definitely has came alive in a whole other way for me.And this isnt really even my fav pink floyd album.

I owned the MFSL version( still do) for years and use to smile with glee when someone wanted to hear "the" version of the Wall on mfsl. Well, now I must apologize to those folks .The mfsl is just NO competition on this baby. THIS THING ROCKS!.. BUY it.. its amazing.


johnny33

 

I haven't heard the Canadian version, but my Jaspac mini-lp version of The Wall smokes the MFSL.

 

Can anyone offer an explanation as to why the MFSL would be inferior-apart from not working with the proper master tapes???

 

Yes....PLEASE explain as to HOW the MFSL version isnt nearly as good?...I mean are you talking a DRASTIC improvement or are you just meaning little tiny details only an audiophile would notice? I was of the thinking that the MFSL one was directly from the master tapes, and was not severly eq'ed or compressed at all.


johnny33[/QUOTE]

 

Well I dont really know as far as specs go guys. Honestly I was also under the impression that the MFSL was the best version to have. I have had it since it came out practically. But ,The MFSL just sounds not nearly as crisp. The drums are certainly better on the canadian.
Some say that the MFSL "breaths" better.. has more air. I dont even hear that. I wasnt really expecting much to be honest. But I was really surprised.I dont think its just a nit picky "audio geeking" thing really either. Even the mix seems louder. Not as muffled either. I never heard the different toms on the drums like i do on this version. The organ on the opening number is much more pronounced. The thing sounds more alive. Like a band playing to me. It just sounds better to my ears.And I was skeptical.

Maybe someone more educated in specifics about sounds levels .. waves.. differences in the actual two masterings can chime in??

johnny33

 

I know exactly what you mean on "In the Flesh" last week I played the UK harvest. I didn't remember it being so "band like"-I always thought it was a horrible muddy durge, but no ..There's guitar , Organ, drums all nicely defined and sounding like Floyd are in your lounge.

So how come the best MSFL guys can't match the redbook releases? There must be a reason

 

The MFSL is very good but bass heavy.
I also prefer the Canadian original CD version.

 

Yeah I dont know. Maybe one of the people more in the know would be able to help. Where's Dave ?.. He is good at this stuff it seems

 

How can the original Canadian CD issue be identified?

 

http://pinkfloydcdscanz.bizland.com/WALL/CanadaC2K36183disc1.html

 

I'm not convinced that the canadian CD differs in any way from the original US CD.

 

The original issues of 'The Wall' in Canada were on regular silver discs by Sony.
- with a huge sound glitch that the Canadian press lambasted, recommending the MFSL, which I own and enjoy.
I had several friends at Sony say "stay with the MFSL" - so reins here!

-I have never heard the Canadian issue of this recording? This is always interesting!

 

I agree with you Michael in regards to differences between these early CBS/Sony issues. While I haven't heard the Canadian CBS/Sony release, I have several Japan CBS/Sony versions and more than one version of the original C2K-36183 version released for the USA and they are all the same, including the click at the start of Comfortably Numb, etc.

I remember there being some discussion here awhile back that the Canadian issue didn't have the click at the start of Comfortably Numb, so it was seen as different and preferred to the other versions, but I thought this was later debunked.

 

No idea how the U.S. version or other early versions sound, but the Canadian version pictured is what I have, and it sounds fantastic! As mentioned in another thread, I bought (and returned) one copy used that turned out to be the remastered version in the C2K case, which sounded pretty crappy in comparison.

Yes, the original (blackface, anyway) Canadian version does have 'the click.'

 

It is more accurate to describe this as the C2K version. I don't think the fact it is Canadian has anything to do with it. It's the mastering that matters and I think it's the same on all C2K versions. I've never heard the MFSL version, but if it even comes close to the C2K, it must be one of their best efforts. Here is a scan of the U.S. version:

 

Perhaps you're right that it doesn't matter whether or not it's Canadian. It could be that (If the site linked above is a comprehensive indicator of the different authorized pressings) that 'Canadian' is tagged as the version because it was the only pressing in Canada. Although, I'd be surprised if none of the remastered version were pressed here.

Any idea where the info came from regarding the Canadian version?

 

C2K isn't a good moniker - the remastered Columbia (US) pressing carried a catalog # beginning with C2K.

 

Good point. Hmmm. How about first Columbia Pressing? (Doesn't have the same ring to it )

 

The 2nd Canadian pressing uses a different catalog number ie. CKXXXX (don't remember exactly what it is)

I believe that all countries C2K pressings are the same mastering, with the US 2nd pressing exception. I also believe that taxman is correct. I am currently waiting for a IC chip for my dinosaur CDP to compare the Harvest to the Canadian C2K pressing.

The MFSL is definitely not a flat transfer of the master tapes as evidenced by the C2K pressings we have heard. In fact, it sounds more like it might be a digital master transfer like the MFSL Dark Side, MFSL Bryan Adam Reckless etc. This is just speculation on my part mind you. Something you have to hear, like Johnny, taxman, Gary etc., to really believe.

PS. Johnny, welcome to the breath of life™ my friend.

 

I don't see how the fact that you like the Canadian press tells you anything about the MFSL, its origins, its source tapes, and the mastering moves it used, or lack thereof. But I am so tired of this album that I really have a hard time girding myself for a discussion about it.

 

Of course, you mean "Jasrac" - the Japanese equivalent to ASCAP:

http://www.jasrac.or.jp/ejhp/index.htm

 

Please read post #14 in the following link...

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=77689&page=1&pp=20&highlight=wall

 

How is the US C2K 2nd press different from all the others?

Thanks

 

Does the 2nd pressing have the little triangle under the compact disc logo?
I have one without a triangle, and sounds nice to me, but don't have one with a triangle to compare it to.

 

The 2nd US pressing has a DIDP under the C2K 36183 on the CD. See www.pinkfloydcd.com for the differences between the two C2K US issues.