Just got my canadian CD of Pink Floyd's "The Wall" - WOW!

Something tells me that the original poster who might of thought that this C2K 68519 was the second pressing or am I wrong and the actual 2nd pressing C2K 36183 is in fact different, anyone know? It just looks like a re-issue of the first pressing to me.

 

Just to clarify: there were TWO US issues with the number C2K 36183. Are these the same? (I'm assuming they are)

 

I've compared the following issues of The Wall had have found them to be identical:

* Japanese CBS/Sony, catalog number 50DP 361-2
* U.S. Columbia, catalog number C2K 36183, Japanese Denon pressing
* U.S. Columbia, catalog number C2K 36183, U.S. DADC pressing
* Canadian Columbia, catalog number C2K 36183, black-face label

It's been said here that the second Japanese CBS/Sony release with catalog number 48DP 5007-8 is identical as well, and I believe that later Canadian releases with no color coating are also the same.

 

There was discussion here recently that the U.K. Harvest release beats the early Columbia and CBS/Sony issues. How many folks have done the comparison? What are your thoughts? I have the Harvest set (Japanese pressings, black-face), but I have not compared it to the Columbia and CBS/Sony sets. With my impending move, I won't be able to do it for awhile, either.

(Maybe this should be a poll. )

 

I prefer the Harvest myself, but not by much...and the price difference makes the CDN copies a better deal.

 

The original C2K:

The MFSL: :thumbsdn:

The MFSL has an "all over the place" quaility that gets on my nerves after awhile, IIRC.

 

Isn't there more than one UK Harvest mastering, with and without pre-emphasis?

 

me too

 

Sorry my friend you're dead wrong on this one. Other than the 2 Canadian Columbia (silver-faced, black-faced pressings of catalog #C2K 36183) the mastering is completely different and inferior. In fact they go by the CKXXXX catalog number for the next post C2K pressings.

 

I've done a direct a/b comparison between the original silver faced UK Harvest CD and the Columbia made in Japan for US CD, and found the UK CD to be preferable. It is more open, dynamic, and doesn't have the pop in Comfortably Numb.

 

Keith,

Currently I have on loan from ScottJ the black-faced Japan Harvest pressing so I will be doing the comparison hopefully soon. (I'm waiting for an IC chip for my dinosaur CDP). I'm sure glad Scott is a patient fellow as this is taking much longer than anticipated.

 

Is this Canadian version of The Wall with the great mastering for sale new, anywhere? Is so, where?

 

No, all versions with this mastering are out of print. But keep an eye out in the classifieds section for a "C2K version". They seem to be popping up pretty regularly lately for around $30 or even less.

 

It would be nice if someone can post the EAC data (peak values, CRC) for pressings they consider good and we other folks can compare with what we have. I have a C2K pressing, but it is made in U.S. and by "CMU". I'm curious to know if I've got the same mastering.

 

Dave, I should have been more clear. By later Canadian pressings, I was only referring to ones with no color coating (i.e., black text on aluminum) and catalog number C2K 36183. Are you saying that this later Canadian version has a different mastering than the original Canadian black-face version?

 

Hi all,

I got a US Columbia second pressing (circle and triangle logo) of "The Wall". No clicks or glitches on this pressing. Breath Of Life is all there. I think my copy is Canadian made with US label. Smokes the Mobile Fidelity UD II of same. I don't like the MoFi bloated bass and cranked treble on this. Cost me $2 US at a yard sale in Athens!

 

Is the catalog number for the Columbia set C2K 36183? Maybe I missed something, but I thought that all U.S. copies with this catalog number have the same mastering (i.e., with the glitches). Does your set have a different mastering than the ones with the glitches?

By the way, the MFSL version is not a UDII. It was only released as a UDI with the discs made in Japan.

 

And if they 'bloated' the bass and 'cranked' the treble, I'll be a simian's father's brother.

 

I assume you said this in reference to the MFSL set. Running with that assumption, why do you say that? It seems as though it is not unheard of for MFSL to have messed with the EQ. You know, the whole "smiley-faced" EQ thing. That said, the smiley-faced assertion concerns me. The MFSL version of Aja sounds tweaked to me (bright treble), but Steve has sworn up and down that it is not tweaked.

 

Don't know whether or not the MFSL DSOTM and The Wall were "tweaked", but they do sound dramatically different from the original CDs, and not in a good way, IMO.

On the other hand, I don't have a problem with the Mofi CDs of Meddle or AHM.

 

I'll ask again:

It would be nice if someone can post the EAC data (peak values, CRC) for pressings they consider good and we other folks can compare with what we have. I have a C2K pressing, but it is made in U.S. and by "CMU". I'm curious to know if I've got the same mastering.

 

It ought to. It's built on a not-terribly-well-supported foundation.

 

I'd be interested to see what you think. What do your ears tell you first off? I have the black face Harvest made in Japan, bought it when it came out and have always been happy although I did buy the MFSL and the latest ReMaster I never bought a C2K but there is one in a used place I know of, but if it is the same I'll use my money elsewhere.

 

Hi

It is C2K 36182 and has a raised center section of the disc like some CBS Canada issues. It has the USA Columbia Label on it. I don't hear the glitch. The stamper numbers correspond to the correct USA ones expected on a USA made disc. The disc doesn't look like a DADC Terre Haute, IN or a Pitman, NJ made disc. I wish I had a working scanner to post images of this to assist you. I like it's sound. I think the Mobile Fidelity set's sound is system dependent. I don't care for it on my main system at home. It is nice through a friend's Linn/Naim system.

 

Hi poweragemk,

I was referring to the bloated bass and hyped treble on the Mobile Fidelity UD II. The Columbia and Harvest Japan have the bass and treble tonality right for my system. I like the Mobile Fidelity on some systems better. I definitely like the UD II best in the car. Both are excellent in a different way.