Dave's non-recommended MFSL's

MoFi initially released this title as a great sounding silver CD. UDCD 514 is the gold CD version. Apparently, they felt they needed to redo the title for the gold CD instead of cloning the silver CD
I have both, and the silver is much better to my ears. I will be e-baying the gold

 

Thanks! I did NOT know that there was a non-gold CD by MoFi before the gold UDCD 514.

What would you say the two or three biggest differences are between the silver and gold? I am only asking to confirm my own suspicions from another pair of ears.

Thanks again!

 

I picked up a copy of the Abraxas SACD. What a dissappointment. The bass is really boomy while the MFSL sounds beautiful and natural. With the MFSL of Abraxas and the Mastersound of the debut, I don't think it can get any better. I am happy.

 

The gold disc sounds "colder" and not as musical to my ears.

 

Definitely not as musical sounding to me as well Evan. If you listen closely that coldness almost sounds like the gold MFSL CD sounds like it has a veil over it also.

 

Thanks Evan and Dave!

I have never heard the non-gold discs. I will definitely track some of them down.

 

Revisions?

Dave, post #1 indicates that you asked Gary to change some things. can you tell us what you revised and why? curious.
thanks.

 

Lee's non-recommended MSFL: Dark Side of the Moon redbook CD.

 

Re: Revisions?

There have been some revisions due to finding better sounding masterings is all Eddie. Example, the W. Germany U2 War Target blows away the MFSL.

 

Regarding the Tull discussion, one of the SHTV members has a 1:1 dub on reel to reel which I heard and it sounds just magical.

 

Which album are you talking about? I don't feel like persuing the whole thread...I just may have to, though, because the existence of this 1:1 dub literally makes me salivate.

 

Reviving this one because I've been asked a lot recently if my opinions are cast in stone on this list.

What I'll do right now is list the ones I know are not that bad and will make most listeners very happy. The reason this list is even here is because I've found pressings I prefer and want the best only. Some of these are very very good.

UDCD 509 Huey Lewis and the News Sports

UDCD 511 The Police: Synchronicity

UDCD 514 Louis Armstrong & Duke Ellington Together for the First Time/The Great Reunion

UDCD 526 Elton John: Goodbye Yellow Brick Road

UDCD 528 Sting: The Dream Of The Blue Turtles

UDCD 533 The Who: Tommy

UDCD 544 Brian Adams Reckless

UDCD 552 Santana Abraxas

UDCD 561 The Who: Who are You

UDCD 565 Tom Petty: Hard Promises

UDCD 568 Queen A Night at the Opera

UDCD 571 U2: War (still the best sounding U2 album on MFSL)

UDCD 588 Queen: News of the World

UDCD 591 Todd Rundgren Something / Anything?

UDCD 607 Stan Getz & Joao Gilberto Getz / Gilberto

UDCD 608 Eric Clapton Just One Night

UDCD 610 Queen: The Game

UDCD 611 Steve Winwood: Back in the High Life

UDCD 618 Robbie Robertson: Robbie Robertson

UDCD 619 Dr. John: In the Right Place / Gumbo

UDCD 625 Cream Live Cream / Live Cream Volume II

UDCD 628 Bob Marley & the Wailers Exodus

UDCD 641 Sonny Terry & Brownie McGhee Sonny & Brownie

UDCD 642 R.E.M. Murmur

UDCD 650 U2: The Joshua Tree

UDCD 653 Eric Clapton Backless

UDCD 657 Alexis Korner's Blues Incorporated R&B From the Marquee

UDCD 666 Nirvana Nevermind (unfortunately still the best pressing)

UDCD 668 Queen: A Day at the Races

UDCD 672 Bernard Herrmann The Four Faces of Jazz

UDCD 676 Canned Heat & John Lee Hooker Hooker 'N' Heat

UDCD 680 The Bee Gees Trafalgar

UDCD 681 Cream Goodbye

UDCD 684 Robin Trower: Bridge Of Sighs

UDCD 696 Harry "Sweets" Edison & Eddie "Lockjaw" Davis In Copenhagen

UDCD 697 Blue Oyster Cult Agents of Fortune

UDCD 721 Don Henley End of the Innocence (not that great, but I haven't been able to find a better mastering... yet)

UDCD 729 10CC The Original Soundtrack

UDCD 730 Tears For Fears: Songs from the Big Chair

UDCD 738 Blue Oyster Cult Tyranny and Mutation/Blue Oyster Cult

UDCD 747 Toto: Toto IV

UDCD 749 The Pointer Sisters The Pointer Sisters

UDCD 751 Joe Satriani Surfing With The Alien

UDCD 755 The Who Live at Leeds

 

Hey Dave,

What's the best CD of this one?

 

I've only heard this one and it's at least listenable, but I'll take Steve's word on this one as it's not great, just ok.

 

Is that the Speakers Corner LP?

 

Yes indeed!

 

Cool. It's sitting on my shelf. The writing wasn't small enough so I didn't think it was Kevin.

If I ever get my table back (it' been almost a year now) I'll give it a listen.

Thanks guys.

 

The difference between the MFSL Gold CD of Getz / Gilberto and the West German Verve CD is astounding; it might as well be a remix. The stereo separation is far wider, the sound is much more open and detailed but also thinner and with, as it seems, less echo. I don't know which one is more authentic or which one sounds like the Kevin Gray LP or original LP, but the MFSL has a lot more fidelity and realism than the West German Verve CD.

 

Agreed, and that is responsible for the thin and very hissy sound of the MFSL. But it is a different mix, isn't it?

 

I just listened to the MFSL and the Verve Master Edition remaster. I can say with 90% certainty that the Verve is a different mix than the MFSL. It's hard to tell on something like this were there were probably only 3 or 4 tracks but the panning of the drums and bass are different as is the general tonality. There's also a six second edit on the Mo-Fi that's not there on the Verve.

 

Verve Master Edition IS a re-mix. There's a thread or two about this.

 

I'll do a search.

So, is it Ipanema or Impanema? I'll try both.