Which Edition "Bridge Over Troubled Water" Simon & Garfunkel?

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by KatCassidy, Sep 19, 2009.

  1. Mike in OR

    Mike in OR Through Middle-earth...onto Heart of The Sunrise

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    Four single sided discs. I don't listen to my Classic 45 sets every single time I want to hear a certain record. BUT, if you want to hear the best that is out there for BOTW, the Classic set is it.

    As far as digital goes, I listen to my JPN Mastersound from the longbox. I would like to have a listen to the 35DP one day.
     
  2. Tullman

    Tullman Senior Member

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    I concur. The 45 rpm is the best for this title.
     
  3. Steel Horse

    Steel Horse Forum Resident

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    Got the Mastersound Gold CD and I like it a lot.
     
  4. dprokopy

    dprokopy Senior Member

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    I think Steve has gone on record here recommending the MasterSound disc as well. Mastered by Doug Sax, I believe.
     
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  5. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    I have to following:

    1. Columbia original LP
    2. Columbia later issue LP, circa 1987 or so
    3. Columbia Mastersound half-speed LP
    4. MFSL half-speed LP
    5. Standard Columbia CD
    6. In set: "Collected Works" CD

    The MFSL wins overall, but the "Collected Works" disc is not a bad CD.
     
  6. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

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    Is that original quad reel in private hands, or did that leak as a favor from someone at Sony?
     
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  7. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Interesting, the exact opposite of my comparison between the two. My 35DP is open and smooth as silk and the Mastersound sounds restricted and pinched.
     
  8. Pug

    Pug The Prodigal Snob Returns!

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    The Mastersound doesn't sound restricted and pinched to me. I think it sounds similar in tone to the 35DP, but it sounds less veiled because a better source tape was used.
     
  9. JonUrban

    JonUrban SHF Member #497

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    25 years ago or so, after the quadraphonic time period was over, a fellow named Mike Robin somehow got ahold of around 40 Columbia Quad Master reel copies, first gen'd off of the no longer quad needed masters. Some of these were working mixes of never released (in quad) stuff, and all of them were of "early" titles released by Columbia/Epic. He sold copies of these reels to select quad fans at that time. (Somehow I missed out on this :( ) Over time, they were duped and traded, but finding a real Mike Robin recorded reel is a real find.

    What's important with regards to this thread is that the BOTW Quad Master was probably used only a few times, far less than the original stereo master. This is why it sounds so good (along with the opening up of the music through 4 channels).
     
  10. ricks

    ricks Senior Member

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    The Mastersound Gold mastered by Doug Sax is my go to copy. The current remaster by Anesini is decent but for me it's too sterile and a bit cold. So for a cheap alternative to the Gold the unremastered Bridge is nice and was probably the best sounding of the original S&G CD's

    Rick
     
  11. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

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    Cool...Funny I never heard that story before. 15 years ago or so, when I was really into all things quadraphonic and contacting all the (former) big players that I could find, no one ever mentioned that story...Not Tad, Larry Clifton, QuadBob, not any of the other guys. And back in the day I talked to them all, at length. Maybe everyone knew it and no one talked about it...But I know for sure if someone had mentioned it, it would have stuck in my head!
     
  12. SteveSDCA

    SteveSDCA Senior Member

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    Any forum members get the Sundazed version? It's supposed to be from the original master tape. How does it compare to the others?
     
  13. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    :agree:

    Not heard all the varitations mind.

    Try this little gold cd for starters.
     
  14. Perisphere

    Perisphere Forum Resident

    Baritone sax.
     
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  15. Larry Geller

    Larry Geller Surround sound lunatic

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    Right here:
     

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  16. monewe

    monewe Forum Resident

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    iI have a copy of the UK Millenium edition and it sounds excellent. No treble zing, nice clean open sound.
     
  17. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff

    Is this the same mastering as the Mastersound gold? It was for Dylan's BLONDE ON BLONDE.
     
  18. JonUrban

    JonUrban SHF Member #497

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    Tad and QuadBob are well aware of them. In fact, Tad has been trying to pry some away from a collector in Australia who has a bunch of them.
     
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  19. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa I'm an ear sitting in the sky

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    I like the Gold Mastersound the best but the latest version from the "mini LP" box remastered by Vic Aseni is no slouch, and easy to find.
     
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  20. monewe

    monewe Forum Resident

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    Not sure but can post EAC readings if you want.
     
  21. ricks

    ricks Senior Member

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    I remember reading an old thread that confirmed they are the same mastering.
     
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  22. kwadguy

    kwadguy Senior Member

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    Did they know about them 15-ish years ago? Because that's when I had all the conversations about this stuff...

    Instead of trying to pry copies from a collector who has 3rd generation copies, why not try and get new dubs from the guy who had the original 1-1 copies?

    In this digital age, I'm surprised copies haven't become relatively easy to get...actually...
     
  23. bresna

    bresna Senior Member

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    York, Maine
    The only thing I can think is that maybe your tweeters aren't putting out enough high end. I heard an almost sibilant quality to the treble on the 35DP. Very shrill highs - almost distorted cymbal splashes.

    The thing is, I had given the 35DP to my father when I picked up the Mastersound. I read here that people preferred it, so I grabbed it back from my father and re-ran the comparison. Two times and I thought it was no comparison.
     
  24. Chip TRG

    Chip TRG Senior Member

    Put me in as another vote for the Quad....mine is Canadien, but I still prefer it over the regular issue, only because some of the mixes do away with the artificial double tracking that was used on some of the stereo mixes (The Only Living Boy In NY is a prime example of being MUCH better in it's quad mix).

    (And yes, as someone has already mentioned--don't forget the mono mixes that were issued for some of the tracks of this LP. Essential.)
     
  25. Mike the Fish

    Mike the Fish Señor Member

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    England
    I don't remember hearing what you described when I last played the 35DP. I've never heard the mastersound to compare though.
     

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