The Kate Bush CD Comparison Thread

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  1. Danny

    Danny Senior Member

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    USA
    Tore thanks for the update. :thumbsup:

    Keef, you stink! ;) ;) ;)
     
  2. CardinalFang

    CardinalFang New Member Thread Starter

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    You're so witty, Danny. :rolleyes: ;)
     
  3. Danny

    Danny Senior Member

    Location:
    USA
    :laugh: You're still the "King of Zing" Keef. :thumbsup:
     
  4. Capt Fongsby

    Capt Fongsby Music is the best. ... And cats.

    Location:
    Norway
    THE KICK INSIDE

    mastering #1:
    82.3 / 83.7 / 70.7 / 83.1 / 61.9 / 75.7 / 74.6 / 44.4 / 83.1 / 80.4 / 71.7 / 75.2 / 46.0

    CP35-3045 Japan Black Triangle
    matrix: CP35-3045 6A1

    Japan Pastmaster CP21-608
    matrix: ?

    Japan
    matrix: TOCP-3005 B A1

    mastering #2:
    93.4 / 95.1 / 81.9 / 100.0 / 71.3 / 88.1 / 78.4 / 51.6 / 90.4 / 100.0 / 83.8 / 83.2 / 52.1

    CDP 7460122 Made in U.K.
    matrix: CDP 746012 2 AR 2 EMI SWINDON

    CDP 7460122 Made in U.K.
    matrix: CDP 7 46012 2 :: MASTERED BY NIMBUS

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    LIONHEART

    mastering #1:
    100.0 / 100.0 / 100.0 / 100.0 / 63.0 / 100.0 / 75.5 / 100.0 / 100.0 / 100.0

    CP32-5040 Japan Black Triangle
    matrix: CP32-5040 21A1 +++++

    CDP 7 46065 2 / UK: CD-FA 3094 (Made In UK)
    matrix: CDP 746065 2 AR 13 :2:3 EMI SWINDON

    CDP 7 46065 2 Made in U.K.
    matrix: CDP 7 46065 2 . MASTERED BY NIMBUS

    CDP 7 46065 2 Made in UK
    matrix: CDP 7 46065 2 AR @ 7:7:6

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    NEVER FOR EVER

    mastering #1:
    100.0 / 71.0 / 100.0 / 93.5 / 92.4 / 100.0 / 97.5 / 80.5 / 43.2 / 48.4 / 100.0

    CDP 7463602 Made in West Germany (alu to spindle hole)
    matrix: CDP 7 46360 2 2896 816 01 * MADE IN W. GERMANY BY PDO HANOVER

    Made in UK
    matrix: CDP 746360 2 AR 4 EMI SWINDON

    CDP 7463602 Made in USA
    matrix: CDP 7 46360 2 AR @ 1 CAPITOL JAX

    Made in Japan
    TOCP-3007 4

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    THE DREAMING

    mastering #1:
    91.2 / 88.0 / 83.6 / 84.5 / 89.3 / 91.2 / 79.6 / 55.0 / 69.9 / 79.8

    CDP 7463612 Made in UK
    matrix: CDP 746361 2 AR EMI SWINDON

    mastering #2:
    100.0 / 96.5 / 91.6 / 92.7 / 97.9 / 100.0 / 87.3 / 60.4 / 76.7 / 87.6

    CDP 7463612 Made in U.K.
    matrix: CDP 7 46361 2 : MASTERED BY NIMBUS

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    HOUNDS OF LOVE

    mastering #1:
    96.5 / 82.3 / 91.7 / 68.1 / 95.8 / 48.5 / 57.0 / 98.5 / 77.5 / 100.0 / 88.8 / 100.0

    CP32-5086 Japan Black Triangle
    matrix CP32-5086 1A1

    mastering #2:
    100.0 / 90.5 / 100.0 / 83.7 / 100.0 / 61.3 / 71.0 / 100.0 / 93.1 / 100.0 / 100.0 / 100.0

    CDP 7 46164 2 Made in Japan
    matrix: CDP 7 46164 2 6A2

    EMI-Manhattan CDP 7 46164 2 DIDX 1100 (Made In USA)
    matrix: 1-1-1 MASTERED BY EMI MFG IFPI L043 077774616423

    mastering #3 (with 6 bonus tracks):
    98.7 / 98.5 / 98.7 / 98.0 / 98.6 / 98.0 / 98.0 / 98.8 / 95.9 / 98.6 / 98.2 / 98.7 bonus tracks 98.7 / 98.7 / 98.3 / 98.0 / 98.6 / 65.5 %

    EMI 7243 5 25239 2 4 Made In Holland
    Matrix: IFPI L046 EMI UDEN 8579782 @ 1 020210-NL


    Well, it's a start.
    Maybe each title should have it's own post?

    I'm thirsty. Later.
     
  5. Black Elk

    Black Elk Music Lover

    Location:
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    Instead of clicking Action>Test Selected Tracks, you can simply hit F8 after all tracks have been selected.

    With regard to how to present all the data/variations, here's what we came up with for the original Genesis CDs (not wishing to blow my own horn, I'm simply the editor for the thread, and rely on the help of the Forum to put it all together):

    http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=149728

    If you generate enough data (we started the above thread AFTER several other long discussion threads), you may want to use a post per album, rather than post them all each time (that also avoids repeating lots of information that may not have changed).
     
  6. Great Deceiver

    Great Deceiver Active Member

    Location:
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    Keith, Black Elk: thanks for the detailed additions!
     
  7. darkmatter

    darkmatter Gort Astronomer Staff

    I have taken a couple of readings from two discs from my collection, the first is the same as #1

    THE KICK INSIDE

    93.4 / 95.1 / 81.9 / 100.0 / 71.3 / 88.1 / 78.4 / 51.6 / 90.4 / 100.0 / 83.8 / 83.2 / 52.1

    CDP 7460122 Made in Holland
    Matrix: 746012 2 AR @ 1-1-5-NL


    and,

    Mastering #3?
    86.1 / 87.2 / 73.3 / 98.0 / 69.9 / 80.3 / 69.3 / 46.8 / 81.4 / 92.5 / 70.7 / 74.6 / 94.5

    CDP 7460122 Made in W-Germany
    Matrix : 746 012-2 2893 169 02

    I have the Japan pressing CP35-3045 Japan Black Triangle
    Full matrix: CP35-3045 with a 1A1 matrix, I will look for it and check to see if this is different from #1. I fancy not.

    Regards,

    Simon :)
     
  8. darkmatter

    darkmatter Gort Astronomer Staff

    Correction the first set of readings are the same as mastering #2!!

    My apologies

    Simon :)
     
  9. darkmatter

    darkmatter Gort Astronomer Staff

    THE KICK INSIDE


    Another version I have produces the following readings


    96.7 / 98.4 / 83.1 / 97.7 / 72.7 / 89.0 / 87.6 / 52.1 / 97.7 / 94.5 / 84.3 / 88.4 / 54.0

    This is a Japanese Paper Sleeve edition catalogue number TOCP-67815 (EMC 3223)
    Matrix Number TOCP-67815 1 A1

    The above was purchased at the same time as "Aerial" as a set in early 2006

    Simon :)
     
  10. I just received the WG version of "The Kick Inside". I decided to create a table for better overview. I would be interested to hear what people who have heard all three versions consider the best sounding mastering for this album. I only have the UK and the WG, and I haven't done any detailed comparison yet.
     

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  11. I have this CD also and get 45.5% for the last track as the peak level. I suppose this was a typo, since 94.5% seems really high for that last track (compared to all the other masterings).
     
  12. PH416156

    PH416156 Alea Iacta Est

    Location:
    Europe
    If it can help,



    The Kick Inside – 46012 2 1 Made in Italy

    Matrix 746012 2 AR @ 1 Total Time 43:14

    93.4 / 95.1 / 81.9 / 100.0 / 71.3 / 88.1 / 78.4 / 51.6 / 90.4 / 100.0 / 83.8 / 83.2 / 52.1



    Lionheart 46065 2 3 Made in UK

    Matrix 746065 2 16 : 1 : 3 EMI Swindon Total Time 36:58

    100.0 / 100.0 / 100.0 / 100.0 / 63.0 / 100.0 / 75.5 / 100.0 / 100.0 / 100.0



    The Whole Story 46414 2 Made in Italy

    Matrix CDP 746414 2 AR . 6 EMI Swindon Total Time 48:55

    100.0 / 74.8 / 52.1 / 100.0 / 100.0 / 96.9 / 100.0 / 85.1 / 100.0 / 100.0 / 100.0 / 100.0


    The Red Shoes CDEMD 7243 8 27277 2 9 Made in Holland

    Matrix 827277 2 @ 1 Total Time 55:30

    97.5 / 100.0 / 98.9 / 100.0 / 87.6 / 94.3 / 100.0 / 97.3 / 100.0 / 99.9 / 100.0 / 88.1
     
  13. ybe

    ybe The Lawnmower Man

    The Red Shoes CK 53737 Made in USA

    Matrix 1A CK53737 01 C1 Total Time 55:26

    97.5 / 99.8 / 99.3 / 99.9 / 87.4 / 93.9 / 100.0 / 97.1 / 99.9 / 99.7 / 99.9 / 88.0

    Sounds horribly bright. Avoid.
     
  14. darkmatter

    darkmatter Gort Astronomer Staff

    Hi Roland, Yes it was, my apologies. I have ran it again and can confirm the reading of 45.5%. I really like the SQ of this issue.

    Simon :)
     
  15. darkmatter

    darkmatter Gort Astronomer Staff

    Hi Roland,

    Did you carry out a comparison between the WG and UK discs? do you now have any other versions.

    Regards,

    Simon :)
     
  16. I only have the two versions (WG and UK). I have not heard the early Japanese versions (blue column) nor the Japanese mini-LP (pink/purple).

    Between the WG and the UK, there is not a huge difference, but there is one. I haven't done enough listening to decide which one I like better.
     
  17. darkmatter

    darkmatter Gort Astronomer Staff

    Thanks for that, I am going to carry out a full listen as I have the early Japan CD two different matrices, the West German, The UK and the mini LP, this will be an interesting shoot out. I have already compared the two you have.

    I will also be carrying this out with a friend, who is a HiFi reviewer & electronics designer I trust his ears, this will be interesting for him as well.

    I will keep you / the thread posted.

    Regards,

    Simon :)
     
  18. yesstiles

    yesstiles Senior Member

    So how many different masterings are there of the sublime "The Dreaming?"
     
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  19. RBtl

    RBtl Forum Resident

    Location:
    Toronto, Ontario
    THE SENSUAL WORLD

    78.4 / 100.0 / 70.4 / 78.8 / 99.1 / 80.3 / 82.4 / 74.3 / 89.6.1 / 57.0 / 93.7

    C2 93078 Capitol Made in Canada by Disque Americ
    matrix: 3WE/C2-93078
     
  20. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

    Location:
    Toronto
    The WG and UK discs sounded the same to me. But I still prefer the Japanese first pressings.
     
  21. Paul H

    Paul H The fool on the hill

    Location:
    Nottingham, UK
    I recently scored a copy of the This Woman's Work box and have been revisiting a collection I last explored over a decade ago. Boy, some of this stuff is a joy. Since the last time Lionheart and I spent time together my system has improved greatly and I'm enjoying this album (and the others) more than I ever did. Simply wondrous.

    So, my question: are there any pressings from this set (mainly UK-made I think), that you'd like some info on? Happy to post logs.
     
  22. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

    Location:
    Toronto
    Is this the CD box or the LP box?
     
  23. Paul H

    Paul H The fool on the hill

    Location:
    Nottingham, UK
    CD box. Sorry, should have said. I'm having a whale of a time. Sensual World brings back SO MANY memories :)
     
  24. Paul H

    Paul H The fool on the hill

    Location:
    Nottingham, UK
    No takers??

    I'd be interested to know what others think of these pressings in comparison to others. I have nothing to compare with.
     
  25. SgtPepper1983

    SgtPepper1983 Forum Resident

    Location:
    Berlin, Germany
    How does the Hounds Of Love - cd compare to the remastered one?
     
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