Speed Of Life: David Bowie Song-by-Song Thread

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by prymel, Apr 30, 2023.

  1. moomoomoomoo

    moomoomoomoo WhoNeedsRealityWhenThere'sMoreSleepToLookForwardTo

    Tin Machine 2 (preliminary)

    It's again been years, so I will need to play most of the tracks as we go. Memory is that at least 2 tracks (If There Is Something, Baby Universal) are very good, & I have positive memory of You Belong In R&R. To this day, Stateside sounds to me like the worst song AC-DC (a band I despise) ever did (they didn't, just seemed like HS was imitating them & it sucks).

    TM2 was hurt badly by being on a poorly run indie label. It was a cutout bin standard for years, then it went oop & people seemed to want it.
     
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  2. Purple Jim

    Purple Jim Senior Member

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    Tin Machine II (preliminary)

    I listened to this in the shop when it came out and it didn't impress me. I bought it about 10 years ago I think, just to complete the picture. I haven't listened to it much over the years but I came back to it recently and discovered that I only like four or five songs (which went towards my "Best Of Tin Machine" comp.
     
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  3. omikron

    omikron Avid contributor to Paul McCartney's bank account

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    The comp is that long, huh?
     
  4. CN211276

    CN211276 Forum Resident

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    I do not believe Bowie's parting with EMI was amicable. He no longer needed the money and they were hit in the pocket by him restoring his artistic integrity.

    Tin Machine ii is more polished than the first album and has more consistency.
     
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  5. moomoomoomoo

    moomoomoomoo WhoNeedsRealityWhenThere'sMoreSleepToLookForwardTo

    Except the Sales vocals. I think I'd rather listen to Helen Reddy & Barry Manilow do a duet.
     
  6. omikron

    omikron Avid contributor to Paul McCartney's bank account

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    At 13 tracks long, should we even get into WHY there are Sales lead vocal tracks on this album?
     
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  7. hutlock

    hutlock Forever Breathing

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    I actually don’t own TMII at all and haven’t ever really felt the desire to hear it. Looking forward to revisiting it here, even if it might end up with me shelling out for it lol.
     
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  8. Cat People

    Cat People Forum Resident

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  9. globule2

    globule2 Forum Resident

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    If there were 5 Tin Machinists, why do I only see 4 in the picture?
     
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  10. Daniel Plainview

    Daniel Plainview God's Lonely Man

    I saw Bowie in concert just days before my 14th birthday in 1990. It was the only time he ever came to my town. I wish I had manned up and gone to him in the following years. I hate going to the big cities, though. At any rate, I carry fond (albeit foggy) memories of Bowie and his Sound and Vision show.

    By time T2 came out I was too busy being a teen, playing in a band, going to metal shows. I saw plenty of orange duke Bowie on TV doing promo work, on MTV, SNL, Arsenio, but I didn't give the album my full attention until a few years later. I wasn't attuned to it at that particular moment in my life.

    I love the first Tin Machine album, but the 2nd one didn't have the same excitement. Edges were smoother, lyrics more comprehensible, production more polished, the music more tame.

    I rarely reach for it, but when I do I say to myself, "this isn't half bad". I dunno. I'll play it tonight, see how I feel.
     
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  11. hutlock

    hutlock Forever Breathing

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    Yeah yeah yeah. Fine, I bought it.
     
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  12. Purple Jim

    Purple Jim Senior Member

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    No. I like more songs from TM1!
     
  13. sillyboyblue

    sillyboyblue Forum Resident

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    Tin Machine II
    Bought a bargain-bin cassette very cheap around the late 90s, wasn’t all that enamoured with it at the time, save for a few stand out tracks.

    Revisited it in the noughties after I got hold of an original vinyl copy of the album and a some 12” singles and discovered that it’s quite a different animal to the debut.

    Some great tracks, some utter dross but…

    Is it more than the sum of its parts?

    Look forward to following this up in detail.
     
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  14. moomoomoomoo

    moomoomoomoo WhoNeedsRealityWhenThere'sMoreSleepToLookForwardTo

    I don't think the Rhythm guitarist was considered a full member.
     
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  15. NekoM

    NekoM Seriously not serious.

    What’s surprising is the Victory label was owned by JVC who at launch in 91 considered themselves a major label, they then released a lot of random music and then went bust three years later!
     
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  16. moomoomoomoo

    moomoomoomoo WhoNeedsRealityWhenThere'sMoreSleepToLookForwardTo

    Did JVC have ANY hits, or even any important records other than TM2?
     
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  17. alugjk

    alugjk Senior Member

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    Gunman
    I have never heard this before but I quite like it. Cool vocal.
    3.5/5
     
  18. scarfaceclaw

    scarfaceclaw Forum Resident

    'Gunman' is a nice track, the music and lyrical delivery is much more interesting than 'Pretty Pink Rose'. I like the drumming and angular-sounding guitar strumming and picking, while the particularly Belew guitar flourishes are less irritating also. The lyrical content is a bit naff, but it's easy to forget about what's being said due to the variation and the spoken parts are great too. It's a way off top tier Bowie, but it stands out in comparison to recent tracks and I would definitely return to this one.

    Gunman

    3.75/5
     
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  19. KangaMom

    KangaMom Queen of the Quokkas

    Gunman
    I don't like this as well as Pretty Pink Rose, but I do like this. It took me a while to come around on it but I definitely dig it. It's perhaps isn't as accessible as PPR. I don't necessarily love the high pitched, shrill guitar solos here which are somewhat reminiscent of a dentist drill (which if it floats boat, sure, it just doesn't float mine) but it only intrudes a couple of times. Love the affected spoken vocal at the end. Slightly weird, but then that's why we are here, right?
    3.8/5
     
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  20. NekoM

    NekoM Seriously not serious.

    ‘None! From what I can tell TM2 was the only contemporary band, everything else was prog rock rereleases and live albums. He signed a short term contract so he could bailout quickly.
     
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  21. richard a

    richard a Forum Resident

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    Kevin Armstrong was never considered a member of the band. Not entirely sure why, as he played on both studio albums, wrote Run for TM1, and was on the first tour.
    His position as second guitarist on the second, longer, tour was taken by Eric Schermerhorn, who later worked with Iggy for a number of years.
     
  22. NekoM

    NekoM Seriously not serious.

    Gunman 2/5

    This feels a lot like AB has recorded/programmed his parts and Bowie put his vocals down without any interaction. There’s a lot of repetition and Bowie’s trying really hard to get a vocal line in there somewhere but there’s not a lot of melody to latch onto. I love how AB makes a point of putting bass sample on his instruments and you can barely hear it.
    Every time I hear “Young Man” it reminds me the old ladies on Harry Enfield and chums and what’s funny is Bowie was a fan.
     
  23. Putrifiers II

    Putrifiers II Forum Resident

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    Gunman

    That's more like it. Love the insistent guitar and DB using different voices. I'm going to play it again.
     
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  24. moomoomoomoo

    moomoomoomoo WhoNeedsRealityWhenThere'sMoreSleepToLookForwardTo

    Any prog or live rock that I might have heard of?
     
  25. Cat People

    Cat People Forum Resident

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    :pineapple::tiphat:
     

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