Sinatra / Capitol Sound & Photo Quality: "Sinatra's Swingin' Session!!!" - 1961

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  1. bozburn

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    That's what I'm thinking as well. Somebody's homemade dollhouse craft project, I'm thinking. o_O
     
  2. Simon A

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    Well that doll house looks more like a bachelor pad for Ken. :D
     
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  3. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

    I picked up a sealed (!) circa mid-70s yellow label J13/J16 pressing today (cut in Hollywood on the Scully stereo lathe). I haven't A/B'd it against other versions, but on its own terms, it sound very nice. :agree: Most enjoyable.
     
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  4. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

    Them fellas at Waxtime are sticklers for detail:
    SSSWAxtime.jpg
    (from the back cover of Waxtime's reissue of Sinatra's Swingin' Session)
     
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  5. Simon A

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    Nice read Matt! I love the typo "Frank looked back at his file..."
     
  6. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

    It kills me that not once, but twice, they refer to the Dell notes as the "original liner notes." Umm......no! They were written about a quarter-century later.
     
  7. bozburn

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    I've grown a respect for the SM issues. The ones I have sound great (That is, for the albums originally recorded in stereo. Beware of duophonic junk for the once mono-only recordings).
     
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  8. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

    Alternate shot from the original album cover shoot, from one of the 1996 Mastercard CDs:
    Sinatra.jpg
     
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  9. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

    I knew that Nice 'n' Easy was first released in Germany on the old-style gray label, but didn't realize (until now) that Sinatra's Swingin' Session also was on the gray label in Germany:
    SinatraSwinginSessionGermanPicSHTV.jpg
     
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  10. McLover

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    McLover to MLutthans. Come to Papa. Drool worthy photo right there. Does it sound good?
     
  11. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

  12. McLover

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    If it is there payday, you may be right.
     
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  13. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

    sinatra_sws_cover_lrg.jpg
    Yes:
    Sinatra Swingin'Session.jpg
    Any ideas who is seated next to Big Dave in the booth?
     
  14. paulmock

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  15. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

    Hard to tell, but my guess is that in that black & white photo, a trombonist is standing for a solo, while the trumpets behind him are seated, but on risers, thus appearing taller/higher, as in the color photo on the cover.

    ????
     
  16. paulmock

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    OK! Good. Now...where are the strings? Pushed way to the back of the room? That would put the several rows of visitors next to the strings and behind where Nelson is standing...right? (Trying to compare this great B/W shot with the posed cover shot.)
     
  17. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

    Yes, the strings are way off to Nelson's left: In view in the color photo; out of our view in the black & white photo, somewhere near the 101 on Cahuenga (figuratively speaking).
     
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  18. paulmock

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    LOL! I gotcha on that one.
     
  19. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

    When I interviewed John Palladino, he mentioned that one thing that made the mixers want to pull their hair out was when they had "big band with strings," because the loud brass, drums, etc., would always bleed into the string mics, and I'm sure that's why the strings are way off in one corner, as far away from the brass as possible.
     
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  20. paulmock

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    That makes a great deal of sense...if you have a big room.
     
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  21. mikrt17

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    Ha ha story of my life !!!!
     
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  22. MMM

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    With him saying how SWINGIN' LOVERS! was the hard one, re Sinatra's recordings he did.
     
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  23. paulmock

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    I have no idea how large the stage was in the theatre @ KHJ so I don't know how much difficulty John had in separating the two. He sure did a wonderful job despite the challenges!
     
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  24. MLutthans

    MLutthans That's my spaghetti, Chewbacca! Staff Thread Starter

    True. Keep in mind that he was working in 1956 in mono only, so leakage wouldn't throw the stereo image into Wonkiville, an added problem that faced the stereo guys. (The leakage would be much easier to spot in stereo.)
     
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  25. paulmock

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    Thank you for bringing this up, Matt. I pondered that earlier today after your comments. Thinking that mono would not matter as much as the stereo of 1960 would. But I did not want to take anything away from your comments from Mr. Palladino. Of course, in that day and age baffles were not used as much as they were in later decades...right?
     
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