Rolling Stones to remaster post 1970 albums

Sadly, you're probably right, and I admit that I was being optimistic. I still think it's possible for an album like "Exile"—any album, really, which has been made into a tshirt—to break the trend. But I do agree that the days when any label would take a chance on a DE of an album, however great, that isn't part of the so-called popular consciousness (most anyone who reads music reviews will have heard of Exile, since reviewers like to compare other records and groups, including Stones ones, to it and its sound).

I'm with the others who suspect that Mick probably has at least a disc's worth of archival material he's ready to release once the Stones are good and done. And I'm sure that, no matter how music is purchased by then, that will still sell respectably for what it is. The Stones do span generations. And for cryin' out loud, that stupid "Rarities" CD was all over the place a few years ago. Probably cause it was sold through Starbucks, but still.

Although I'm disappointed we'll never get a "Dirty Work" DE!

 

I just said that the 1994 Stones discs were supposed to be super-amazing and I wasn't sure how these would improve on those. I fully understand WHY Universal would want to remaster them - I just don't see what reason there is to believe they'd be better, especially since most modern remasters are WORSE than their predecessors.

I wasn't looking for some weird argument. I'm not even sure what we're arguing ABOUT...

 

Who knows, maybe Jimmy Page laid down a few choice licks in those out-takes!

All I know, as shabby as it was, the used bins always have a few copies of "Rarities". I agonized for months over whether to buy it, and ultimately I never did. That was probably a "let's stick our toe in the water" moment for the band and label and it ended poorly. Most fans already had most of it, and proclaimed so quite loudly, as I recall.

If "Dirty Work" was rereleased with a bonus disc of unheard stuff, I'd be barrelling down to my nearest shop for it, myself.
Hey, I love this band!

 

"Rarities" was a must-have if just for the CD debut (I think) of "Let It Rock". Might've been a couple of other genuinely interesting other songs, too, but that was the one that stood out as the most desirable...

 

In all my research at the time, I think that was the only one! Somebody correct me here, if If I'm wrong. It's just a Chuck Berry cover, anyway. That may be why I was "swayed" <no pun intended!> to not buy it.

 

Leave Exile Alone People..

Didn't Mick Jagger say he wanted to remix Exile On Main St. ? Who knows, he just might. When I say remix, I mean Mick actually doing the remixing with engineers and him in the chief seat. He did do the mixing for Tatoo You so who knows. I say, leave the best freaking album ever made (more or less) alone!

Get me some windows in this dank basement or I will write a song about it...Ventilator Blues

 

Also, one can get this track—in stereo—in some other places .

 

How hard is it for a corporate-sized entity like the Rolling Stones, which can afford a curator, to issue a series of live albums, a la Pearl Jam, DICK'S PICKS, or WARTS & ALL? Or just a BEAT THE BOOTS box compiling the most frequently issued shows? Then again, I ask the same thing of Prince, R.E.M., etc.

I know it's all out there in FLAC-land, but I'm inordinately attached to physical media.

 

Even with the Flacs I`d also be more into physical media
I know this has been said before but I drives me crazy when any given band puts out X number of versions of the same song and certain bands like the Stones for whatever reason they have,will not just give fans official archive material.It was great when Zeppelin`s How The west was Won came out even being editited together from LA Forum & LongBeach Arena those 3cds give such a better listen than the Audience tape and soundboard fragment,The demand was huge even with all the bootlegs

 

Mick didn't mix Tattoo You...he supervised it. Bob Clearmountain is credited.

 

I think it depends. Much as with the Beatles material, you have distinct "batches" of stuff that's out there.

With most of the 1960s stuff, you have several main sources: the project that turned into Metamorphosis, a set of Banquet rough mixes, a set of instrumental takes from someone who clearly had access to copies of the Buttons/Satanic pre-vocal multis, etc. For the 1970s stuff, by contrast, a lot of what's out there sounds like rough cassette mixes of days' recording sessions...material that several people probably had access to.

In my opinion, the thing that excels in sheer weirdness value (i.e. "why the heck is THAT out there?") would be the Voodoo Lounge stuff that came out a decade ago.

 

1970's era Stones AFTER "Exiles" (with two exceptions) doesn't hold any interest for me personally. Now if they issued a rarities album of the era that Klein owns the rights to I'd be interested (assuming the quality is better than the boots).

 

Now you're really dreaming!

 

Yeah and he could call it Exile On Main Street-Naked.

 

Let It Be Exiled On abbey Road

 

Yep!

It would certainly be nice to get it all in one spot from their "classic" period.

 

Yup. he has it, and he is the only real roadblock. it is all about ego and his current image, and him being threatened by his own past glory.
There's even been a lot of work done, on what could be bonus tracks, in that they have songs that are ready to go minus some remastering, they worked on songs for the 1994 remasters to put on as bonus tracks and scraped it all.
the only thing i remember being new for Virgin 94 remasters, was the longer version of Slave. I think everything else was pretty much like the CBS releases.
I have a very long list of songs I want released on CD... The b-side version of Sway. The Single mix version of All Down The line. Criss Cross Mind (Man). Tons of alt. mixes from It's Only Rock n Roll. A few alt. mixes from Black n Blue. Tons of some Girls sessions stuff. ER alt. mixes. The She Was Hot b- side, I think I'm I'm Going Mad... I've missed a lot too, this is off the top of my head. There's also a killer version of Brown Sugar, with I beleive Clapton playing slide or maybe it was Mick Taylor, regardless it is really cool.

 

legal issues prevent Klein from releasing anything new, not released on records before. And there's some cool stuff too... only a few deaths and a thawing of hate might make that stuff officially available.

 

Is that really the case, or has ABKCO simply just not released anything new because they haven't?

 

I would be curious to know this as well. I once posed the question on this forum (for people to speculate) if if was legally possible for Klein not to be able to own the outtakes of songs from the Decca period vs. his ownership of the masters of the completed albums.
Mick Jagger needs to get past his reticence indealing with his past and release unreleased material that he can legally release. We'd all kill for Taylor Era live and studio material to surface officially.

 

I'd like to hear "Not The Way To Go", a Some Girls era outtake I've only read about.

 

You guys must be buying some really terrible boxed sets. I have The 'Peel Slowly And See', 'Nuggets' 1 & 2, Fats Domino, James Brown, 'Biograph', 'Maximum R&B' by the Who, 'Message In A Box' by the Police, 'Anthology' by John Lennon, 5 cd's of Simon & Garfunkel, and a few others that get played back to front all the time in my house and car. Sure, not everyone is up to 13 cds by The Glenn Miller Orchestra like I am, but I think the content on the boxed sets I've bought was and is STERLING!

 

It was my understanding, only from other stuff i've read over the years, that ABKCO can't. I don't know the fine print of the leagalities. There's a lot of good stuff i've heard, that they could release from Chess Session all the way up to Beggars...
Univeral also owns Decca, except in the USA, so who knows, what might come of this... in theory, they could release everything in a huge box...? I'm just dissapointed they aren't doing any bonus stuff with the old Virgin catalog, and I haven't heard that this stuff is actually re-mastered or just the 1994 remasters repackaged. The 1994 stuff all sounds great to me for the most part.

 

My feeling is that has always just been speculation. Obviously they released Metamorphosis in the '70s, and reissued it for the SACD series. How many of us expected *that*?

Not sure what you mean. As far as I know, Universal is just the distributor for ABKCO.

 

I too think this is just speculation, having only heard this "theory" word-of-mouth and nothing official from any of the parties involved. I'm wondering if ABCKO hasn't released anything "new" because they don't have physical possession of the tapes?