LWP Sideways Hi - there has been discussion of the LWP on the dead wax but no one has indicated what it means. I have it on a LZ I. It is sideways with the L on top and the P on the bottom. An explanation would be appreciated.
I just pulled the trigger on a German RL; I don't think I realized it was one-sided until the deal was done...alas. I've seen varied reports on the sound on side 2..someone want to praise it to the skies and make me feel better?
Here is my double skinny RL that I picked up a month ago for $4.00 in VG side 1,,,,,,,ST-A-691671-1A (RL ss) is above the number side 2.......ST-A-691672-1A (RL ss) is at 10 o'clock from the number both sides are normal dead wax . the green/orange label number has the CTH even in the vg condition it sounds better than my original UK first pressing in vg++
I just found this one in a thrift store today. Looks like crap, plays quite enjoyably. A little minor crackle, who cares. $5. Score!
Just bought a VG double RL copy in the classifieds for $25. Very excited to hear this after a long happy relationship with a really nice-sounding AT/GP pressing. Will post deadwax info when I get it. And to all you guys fronting your dirt-cheap $4 LZ II RL albums in pristine condition, I'd just like to quote the old Dwight the Troubled Teen character from the Letterman show: "I hate you! I hate all of you!"
My trashed copy (cleaned up to playbable status, care of ClickRepair): deadwax1: ST-A-691671 RL deadwax2: ST-A-691672 RL Nothing else in the deadwax that I can see EDIT: "ss" after the RL, very faint. Can't complain as it was technically free (was stuck in a LZ IV LP I bought for a buck - so 2 LP's for the price of one).
Led Zeppelin II (Inquiries) Hello, everybody. I just bought a copy of the vinyl in question (Zep II) about a month ago in MD and after reading all of your postings I'm confronted with a series of questions that I don't have answers for. I wonder if anyone out there could help get a meaning for all the lettering on this vinyl. My copy's inner sleeve appears to be a later reissue of the vinyl on a grey pattern background with a sign that says "Compositions from ATLANTIC/ATCO" on one side and "Property of ____________ Subject_______________" on the other. SIDE ONE Label: SD 8236 (Top right corner) and ST-A-691671-MO (bottom center) 2 o'clock position: PR (really small lettering) 4 o'clock: ^ 19929 (2) 5 o'clock: It has a very small indecipherable symbol 7 o'clock: ST-A 691671-WW-REPL SIDE TWO Label: SD 8236 (Top right corner) and ST-A-691672-MO (Bottom center) 1 o'clock position: ^19929-X (1) 2 o'clock: ATGP 3 o'clock: It has a very small indecipherable symbol 5 o'clock: St-A-691672 WW-REPL Thanks a lot in advance.
My copy is pretty rough G/VG-.I have to say it still sounds great. Counterclockwise Side one: ST- A- 691671 CO RL SS LWsideways W a large S with a reverse R and C within the loops AT Side two: ST- A-691672- AO LWsideways AT RL SS W SP suffix on label,deadwax on side two is 5/16" narrow. This is pressed on a heavierweight vinyl....are all RL's on the heavy vinyl?
Maybe this should be not the correct thread for this question, and if it is so please forward me in the correct one (I have not found it...) Do someone of you compared this amazing sound of the US "RL ss" mix with an original UK plum-red A2 B2 mix? I am speaking about the UK press with the "wreck" mistake on label... I haven't yet an US RL ss copy so I can do this comparison...I would like to know what is the best!
So, no one of you had compared this amazing sound of the US "RL ss" mix with an original UK plum-red A2 B2 mix? There is no way to know which is the best...
Finnally I've got a copy! It's a Columbia Pitman, NJ press, CP on Broadway labels, and dead wax says: ST-A-691671 RL ss B 3 (side 1) ST-A-691672 RL ss A 3 (side 2)
Here's one of mine-- I'll look at the other one when I get home. Side 1 (wide runnoff): ST-A-69171 - (long space) C RL SS W CH3P(?) MOMMA S (with RC inside) BP (upside down) AT Side 2 (narrow runnoff): ST-A- 69172-B CH3P(?) AT RL SS W S (with RC). Both sides have what looks like an upside down L with an E next to it. Anyone have any idea what the "MOMMA" means? I've never been able to figure that out.
I can say that the record plays close to M, so its sound is fantastic! I also compared it with my plum-red UK first press with matrices A2 1 1 3 (side 1); B2 1 1 (side 2). The one with "wreck" mistake on side two, a true first UK press. For each song I firstly played the UK's cut and then the RL's cut and so on, just to have a good feeling... I played two time Whole Lotta Love, The Lemon Song, Thank You and Heartbreaker. I must admit that I'm pretty "disappointed" because I expected from the RL cut a superior sound and instead the two records are equivalent. Listening, this RL is not superior to my UK. I honestly do not hear differences, they are equal. Perhaps this RL cut on Columbia Pitman press is not the "holy grail" much sought after ...are not all equal the RL's cut? Please note: mine has a SKINNY "RL" on BOTH sides with a very small "ss" etched next to the "RL" on both sides. This record has not a so narrowed dead wax, both side are similar, at around 16 mm each. Here the pics, see post #61: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/post-your-lzii-rl-vinyl-pictures-here.210225/page-3 This is the only U.S. copy I have, so I can not make comparisons with other U.S. copies. Again, perhaps this press is not the good one, like the others that I have read in this thread.... Surely my system is not the best and I am not an experienced audiophile...but my ears are good! I would be grateful if someone would educate me on this topic...
Well, your ears are the judge. Enjoy . Finding a RL playing near mint is something to be proud of. Not many of those out there. If you want to sell PM me.
