PINK FLOYD WISH YOU WERE HERE JAPAN CD 35DP4 went over $300

Not really a BARGAIN- I still made you dig deep in your pocket for that one and it has no OBI

 

I picked up a Japan for USA 35DP and it's as nice as people say...definitely worth the effort to find it.

 

I wouldn't let the fact that it didn't have the OBI bother me. As with many of the 35DP titles, t is very hard to find this title with an OBI. I have never seen one in about 6-7 instances.

 

but having said that-an obi will make the disc more collectable

 

Yeah, $60 for that one is a steal.

 

Just wondering.....what was the cost of a typical Japan 1st pressing upon initial release and how many copies were made? I'm totally blown away by these selling prices.

 

As someone here said, Columbia early CD catalog numbers included the price. Therefore, a 35DP CD would have sold for 3,500 Yen when it was issued.

As for the selling prices, you have to realize that we are causing these high prices. These CDs didn't go for this much money until we started hunting them down. I still think that the US version of this is not as rare as we think. It was the only version available for quite a while upon its initial release. Anyone who was into Pink Floyd and bought the first version on the market should have a copy. Of course, quite a few of them probably "upgraded" to the remaster.

 

I saw a copy with the OBI strip on eBay three years ago. It went for $483. I remember because I came in second. At the time, I had never seen a copy before with or without the OBI strip. Fortunately, other copies showed up subsequently, and I paid much less for it without the OBI strip.

 

Well of course it does. I collect Japanese cd's and take pride in having a high percentage of them with OBI's, but my point was that since it is very hard to find any 35DP title with the OBI, I wouldn't avoid bidding on one without an OBI if you really wanted it. It is very hard to find these titles in any case, with or without the OBI.

 

Absolutely. I prefer to have the OBI strips, but they ususally are not a must. As a collector, the exception regarding OBI strips are the ones that were adhered to jewel cases. They should be included. Since most discs that were issued with adhered OBI strips are found with the OBI strips, I view it as a significant detractor if they are missing.

 

Was that how much I paid? I'd forgotten...


I still think that the US version of this is not as rare as we think. It was the only version available for quite a while upon its initial release. Anyone who was into Pink Floyd and bought the first version on the market should have a copy. Of course, quite a few of them probably "upgraded" to the remaster.

From my experience searching regularly, they aren't common at all, but your mileage may vary.

 

I have to respectfully disagree. If you look around, the original Japanese pressings of CBS/Sony titles made for the U.S. market are quite rare. I put them up there with the rarest classes of first pressings. The Japanese CBS/Sony pressing of Wish You Were Here was pressed in 1983 or '84 when the CD format had far less than significant buy-in in the U.S. The volumes of discs pressed in those days were rather small.

Remember that the Japanese CBS/Sony pressing for the U.S. market was made early on in small quantities until CBS/Sony had its DADC plant up and running in the U.S. When manufacturing switched to the U.S., the mastering was switched as well. Of course, there was no such switch in manufacturing location for the 35DP disc, so I would expect the 35DP two-track mastering to be more common than the CK two-track mastering. That has played out in my experience.

Considering that Sony co-invented the CD format, it is amazing how rare their early Japanese pressings for the U.S. market are. I thought they would have flooded the market with discs in '83 and '84, but it appears that this is not the case. For many titles, I have only seen or heard about the Japanese CBS/Sony pressing once or twice. You just don't see them around.

 

Keith, they might not show up in the used stores or eBay very often, but back when I bought this in those early days of CD, there were always several copies on the racks of almost every store. Pink Floyd was a big seller back then, just as they are now. Tower Records used to have stacks of them. It was one of the first, if not the only, Pink Floyd CD released in the US at that time. It hit the US shelves even before DSOTM if my memory isn't totally failing me. I know it was way before "The Wall". How long these stacks of CDs were the two-track, I don't know. But it had to have been a lot of them.

One thing that might also contribute to the rarity is that some buyers of this 2 track CD returned it as defective when the 5 track came out. CBS/Sony may even have recalled the 2 track version. I seem to remember the 5 track version following close on the heels of the 2 track.

I wish there was someone at CBS/Sony who knew the numbers on these things.

BTW, I have a similar feeling about Led Zeppelin's "IV" WG target. There has to be 100's of thousands of copies of that CD out there. I think it's only rare on the secondary market cause most people who bought it, kept it. It was a huge seller back then when it was only available with the target label.

 

As footnote... Steve once told me that in the begining of CD production the batch lots were very very small around 1000. Not at all like the 5000 to 10000 we see now-a-days.

 

Not for the first Pink Floyd CD to be sold in the US. I don't believe that. Sure, for "normal selling" CDs, why press a whole bunch? But Pink Floyd? I'm telling you guys, it was one of the first big-selling rock CDs. The rock-buying public bought it in droves. Back in those days, we had little to choose from and this one was a "must have".

Kevin

 

Yet my searches don't turn them up...but I do find tons of CK 5 track pressings. I don't remember cds catching on right away Kevin, so the smaller pressings make sense. I'm positive they sold very slowly when they were first released, kind of like the internet started slowly as well.

How about that WYWH I sold a few weeks ago, with the two track listing on the back? Did you see that one? It had five tracks on the cd, but the traycard listed it as two with a caveat inside the front insert about it.

Here's what I wrote when I was selling it;

Here's a link to the pic;
http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showpost.php?p=1836624&postcount=2

 

I'd love to know the quantities of discs that CBS/Sony pressed in Japan for the U.S. market back in '83 and '84. They might have been common back then, but you just don't see them now. Many target CDs are common by comparison. Granted, targets are popular, so a lot of people are looking for them and putting them up for sale. It could be that many folks are passing up Japanese CBS/Sony discs, either knowingly or unknowingly. All I know is that I find target CDs in the bins far more frequently than Japanese CBS/Sony pressings.

 

Was this the 2 track version. It is listed as a 5 track but the number suggests otherwise.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...MEWA:IT&viewitem=&item=130047623516&rd=1&rd=1

Anyone know if there are 5 track 35DP WYWH discs?

 

Someone got a heck of a deal if it was the 2 track. But are there 5 track versions of the 35DP disc?

 

I think it is the real deal and a forum member got it!! I was going to get this one but I figured the USA for Japan is sufficient

 

Yeah, hopefully they'll check in here

 

I grabbed it. If it turns out to be the real deal, I might be tempted to sell my Japan-for-U.S.A. CK-33453/35DP-4. Watch the Classifieds!

 

The only thing that scared me is the fact that PJ usually charges an arm and a leg for the extremely rare pressings. Perhaps this is one that slipped by the person entering the listing.

Let us know how it turns out

 

Does 35-dp=kissmydisc/PJ?

 

Correct.