Neil Young – Archives Volume II: 1972–1976 (20th Nov 2020)*

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Smurr1958, Jun 22, 2020.

  1. adam_777

    adam_777 Forum Resident

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    Last Dance might be my favourite Neil Young song. It has such a desperation and gloominess to it. What I do find tragic though is that we havent officially gotten a second live version of it. It wasnt included on Tuscaloosa likely because the tape ran out during Don't Be Denied, which is why I continue to scratch my head why Tuscaloosa was chosen in the first place. It's a fairly standard performance from that time period, it had an out of tune The Loner which caused it to be dropped and it was incomplete. Yes it was a Kenny Buttrey show, but we know other Buttrey shows were recorded, probably around a dozen and likely at least some that would be on par performance wise and more complete than Tuscaloosa. Other than the cachet of having the balls to play Alabama in Alabama, I'm not sure why Tuscaloosa was chosen.

    Archives II also chose to omit giving us a live version of Last Dance although it did give us the studio Monday morning. Last Dance was a song that changed quite wildly due to Neil's mood. The one on TFA is from San Diego right at the end of the tour and is actually quite restrained and dialed in when compared with some of the more unhinged versions. Being that this song really doesnt have a full band studio counterpart released and was only played on this one tour, yet was likely recorded to multitrack dozens of times it really is a shame no other recording has been officially released.
     
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  2. vcpj

    vcpj Gomper

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    TUSCALOOSA is excellent.
     
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  3. Mark Snowden

    Mark Snowden Forum Resident

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    Last Dance is a favourite of mine too, I love the unhinged ones, particularly those shortly after the Johnny Barbata change, Des Moines 27 Feb is a favourite, it's a wild 11 min ride with some parts that weren't on the album version.

    I'm, sort of, glad we got the Monday Morning demo rather than a late 72 studio recording since that would likely be similar to the short, structured version played live in early Jan 73.

    I'm hoping a TFA show might be played on the NYA concert series.
     
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  4. MicJames

    MicJames Forum Resident

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    Do they still sound bad played through an HDCD compatible player that fully decides?

    I have an older Oppo plays HDCDs and am considering the discs.
     
  5. Campaigner

    Campaigner Too late to cause a stir

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    Australia
    Neil's change of heart over the years regarding the TFA tour has been great. I think it was a Q magazine article back in the day and they asked NY what his worst album was, and TFA was his response. I think he mentioned that the whole tour was awful for him and he couldn't wait for it to be end.

    So he's gone from that position, and refusing to issue TFA on CD for decades, to releasing it, working on TFA2 (which never eventuated), and releasing Tuscaloosa.

    It's wonderful and here's hoping he hasn't finished mining that period. It might have been a painful time for Neil, but hopefully there's more music to come.
     
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  6. anth67

    anth67 Purveyor of Hogwash

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    PNW USA
    He also resurrected "Don't Be Denied" and "Time Fades Away" live in the Promise of the Real era.
     
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  7. borderwolf

    borderwolf prisoner of rock'n'roll

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    A wonderful Time Fades Away was also played in Germany in the 2008 tour
     
  8. Kevin j

    Kevin j The 5th 99

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    Seattle Area
    And don’t be denied was played with the horse at the trocadero show in ‘97.
     
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  9. Chief

    Chief Over 12,000 Served

    Neil could probably construct an alternate Time Fades Away built from different performances. I don’t have the slightest problem with the album as-is though. Something from this tour would be great for the concert series if he keeps it up. Almost every show was taped. Toronto and Bakersfield are nice enough audience recordings. I love the electric gators sound.

    I forgot about the “Someone turn on the lights”/“C’mon turn on the lights” ending of the live “Last Dance” that wasn’t included on the album version.
     
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  10. adam_777

    adam_777 Forum Resident

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    I love that refrain and how the song often teeters on coming completely apart during it. Sometimes it goes on for minutes and sometimes Neil reprises it just as it seems its finally about to wrap up. It seems like he is literally confronting his audience and their patience. It's fantastic!

    I like the idea of an alternate TFA, but personally I just want a complete show (ideally several in a box) or failing that a compilation show that mimics the running order of a complete show with highlights from multiple shows. Tuscaloosa came close but nixing 2 songs and having the tape run out before the end left it short of the mark.
     
  11. Crispy Rob

    Crispy Rob Cat Juggler

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    Oakland, CA
    I was there
     
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  12. zakyfarms

    zakyfarms White cane lying in a gutter in the lane.

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    San Francisco
    that may be the most crowded show I've been to.
     
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  13. yesstiles

    yesstiles Senior Member

    Just listened to Disc 5 Walk On and it really shows there’s two very different albums being made four months apart. I love all the material he recorded at the On The Beach sessions in December 1973, but I’m not as keen on the bluesy and vampy material he recorded in the subsequent On The Beach sessions of Spring 1974.
     
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  14. Crispy Rob

    Crispy Rob Cat Juggler

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    It was pretty packed. I was with a large group of friends and we created enough of a buffer for each other that it didn't seem that bad, as best as I can recall. A great time, only slightly less amazing than the OPL and Catalyst shows I managed to catch the year before.
     
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  15. LostWilbury

    LostWilbury Forum Resident

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    Yamaguchi, Japan
    How many shows like this ( not physically available but available on the archive) are there? I just listened to Ann Arbor and loved it, i haven't seem to find a place that lists all the shows i have access to since joining the Rust tier. If its not a massive amount i assume any show i pick will be a winner of sorts?
     
  16. tbugsett

    tbugsett Forum Resident

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    Oslo, Norway
    Here's the full list of available Timeline shows:
    Neil Young
     
  17. LostWilbury

    LostWilbury Forum Resident

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    Thank you so much. Thoroughly enjoyed my first listen on the archive last night with Rotterdamn. Any recommendations for the myriad of post 70's shows?
     
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  18. Crispy Rob

    Crispy Rob Cat Juggler

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    Oakland, CA
    I knew the Trocadero show I had attended was up there, but didn't know Cal Expo '96 was up (I was also at that one - definitely a really good one).
     
  19. zuma11

    zuma11 Forum Resident

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    Santa Cruz
    I recommend the Toronto '88 Bluenotes show with Ordinary People and the full length Sixty To Zero. August 1988 was a very good month for Neil.
     
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  20. N.T.Wrong

    N.T.Wrong Forum Resident

    The adjective ‘cassette’ really drives home the point here. :biglaugh:
     
  21. tgdon'tmind

    tgdon'tmind Lord, Here Comes The Flood

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    Brooklyn
    I got one of the first runs of Archive Vol II, and eventually received a Certificate of Authenticity. Anyone know if that's an actual Neil Young signature on that?
     
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  22. It isn’t.Neil actually answered this question in LTTE.
     
  23. tgdon'tmind

    tgdon'tmind Lord, Here Comes The Flood

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    Brooklyn
    Well, that's too bad. But thanks for letting me know
     
  24. LostWilbury

    LostWilbury Forum Resident

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    Yamaguchi, Japan
    Will check this out and report back, the 83 Trans tour is also looking quite tempting. What a setlist.
     
  25. mtruslow

    mtruslow Forum Resident

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    Towson, Maryland
    The next Neil Young CD I’m buying that I’m never listening to is “The Ducks”.
     

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