Meatloaf: Bat Out Of Hell different CD masterings (surprise?)

Rick, so you can add it to the chart my matrix number is DP-2676 1 * ** ******** (or whatever those symbols are).

 

Thanks, mine is within one second of that (46:43), gotta be the same mastering. How's the sound on yours? Mine is a recent acquisition, so I haven't heard it yet. I'll hear it this weekend.

 

It is decent sounding.

 

Two Out of Three Ain't Bad waveform

Here's the waveform for "Two Out of Three Ain't Bad" from my CD:

 

No brickwalling there! Thanks for that!

 

You're welcome

 

Does xACT have that functionality?

 

I couldn't find any Mac software comparable to EAC. One should have VirtualPC for Mac on their Mac's or an Intel Mac with Windows on it and then use EAC. For Linux, there is the WINE emulator and EAC is reported to work well with WINE emulation.

 

If it does, I'll do it when I get home. Thanks!

 

Oh, oh, can I play?

EK 34974 DIDP 020018

Inner ring is marked: E3 2B EK34974 B1

Purchased new in about 1992 or 1993

Screen cap of Two Out Of Three Ain't Bad is attached. It's doesn't look brickwalled to me.

A clip of a part of the track with some dynamic range is here

 

I looked and I don't see anything there.

 

Hi,

The mastering on this one goes back to around 1984/1985. Definitely no brickwalling. It just a lot louder than the 2nd mastering. I'd really like to know why this is the case.

Earlier I gave a quick a/b compare and at the moment the 2nd mastering (orange in the chart) is more to my liking.

Rick

 

If you have Mac OS X Leopard and an Intel based Mac, you can load Windows XP Pro or Vista on your Macintosh, or if you have a PowerPC based Mac, you should get VirtualPC.

 

I have a PowerBook G4. Not sure which of those categories mine falls into.

 

PowerBook G4 isn't Intel based, it is PowerPC based, so Virtual PC is required. http://search.ebay.com/virtual-mac_W0QQpqryZVirtualPCQ20Mac

 

Thanks for that, I was hoping for freeware. Audacity doesn't do it?

 

Audacity doesn't do this reporting either. The best is to buy a copy of VirtualPC and for almost $50 including S&H, you not only get the emulator software, but you have the OS as part of the installer if you buy from here: http://cgi.ebay.com/Virtual-PC-6-fo...goryZ189QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem and then download EAC.

 

Epic Made in the USA

TT 46:36 (remaining time from CD player)

MATRIX 1A EK34974 09 A

BAR CODE 7464-34974-2

Peaks from EAC:

Track 1 Peak level 84.6 %
Track 2 Peak level 62.6 %
Track 3 Peak level 67.0 %
Track 4 Peak level 87.9 %
Track 5 Peak level 72.9 %
Track 6 Peak level 87.2 %
Track 7 Peak level 78.9 %

 

If memory serves, this mastering arrived at almost exactly the same time the MasterSound gold discs of this title hit the market (1992?). I'm almost certain this is not the circa 1985 mastering. While I'm somewhat embarrassed to admit it now, I bought this at the time because it had a "Newly Remastered" sticker on the longbox and sounded brighter and fuller than the previous version I had before. That previous disc almost certainly was the circa 1985 mastering.

Yes, I know what "brighter and fuller" means by today's standards.

 

Catalogue: CDEPC 82419 (DIDP 10018)
Made in Japan
Matrix Code: didp-10018 21

Very early CD purchase for me, mid - late 80's.

Meat Loaf / Bat Out of Hell
Track 1
Peak level 100.0 %
Track 2
Peak level 100.0 %
Track 3
Peak level 100.0 %
Track 4
Peak level 100.0 %
Track 5
Peak level 100.0 %
Track 6
Peak level 100.0 %
Track 7
Peak level 100.0 %

100% on every track: we have a winner

Never looked before but I always thought the loud sections were distorted so I didn't play it much preferring my old LP.

 

Those dynamics, or lack there of, must look and sound like

 

Look at the screen cap I posted earlier in the thread. It looks and awful lot like the waveform from a master that doesn't hit 100%.

Score one for those who say a visual of the waveform does not tell the whole story.

 

All you need is one peak to hit 100% and you get a report of 100% from EAC. That does not mean there are no dynamics. It means the song peaks at 100%. That's all.

 

Hi, My Japan For US, has peak levels of 100% on all tracks. I purchased the CD in April 1987. Coupled with the fact that DADC in the US had already been online for about 2 years I figure the CD must pre-date that or at the very list be contemporary with it.

The problem with disc's that have all peaks at 100% is it impossible using those values to determine if the mastering is the same as another disc with the same peaks. In these cases waveforms, or even better null tests are required. What this means is gloomrider's disc could easily be what you say, but mine isn't

All this said my early Japan for US of this CD is almost certainly the 1st mastering and could also be the first pressing. Keith any ideas?

Rick

 

Hi,

Keith you are correct at least as far as my early Japan for US goes. It only has an occasional peak that hits 100%. The rest are rather low. The waveforms sort of looks like one of Steve's discs in that respect, but in this case the results are not nearly as good. I really don't want this to become a waveform thread but if anyone want to see one from my Japan for US post here and LMK

Rick