Jethro Tull-Aqualung VK 41044 DIDX 68 CD

Who's "you're?"

 

Are you sure you mean CCD-1044 and not CDP 32 1044 2?

The CCD-1044 in Roland's table of EAC peaks is a WG version, maybe the UK Nimbus version shares the same mastering as the later CDP 32 1044 2?

I've got the CDP 32 1044 2 and it's a Swindon press, complete and times at 43:27.

 

Aqualung 43:34

Blue box Aqualung released in 1994 has a timing of 43:34.
CDP32 1044-2 inner ring CDP 321044 2 . 2 - :3:10EMI Swindon

Track 1
Filename Jethro Tull , Aqualung.wav
Peak level 94.1 %
Track quality 99.9 %
Test CRC 2234FD4E
Accurately ripped (confidence 8) [219228A3]
Copy OK
Track 2
Filename Cross-eyed Mary.wav
Peak level 86.9 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 38EB47B7
Accurately ripped (confidence 9) [D41365A2]
Copy OK
Track 3
Filename Cheap Day Return.wav
Peak level 61.8 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 5A46162C
Accurately ripped (confidence 9) [53E0CD50]
Copy OK
Track 4
Filename Mother Goose.wav
Peak level 86.6 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC B7243E6D
Accurately ripped (confidence 9) [03DB7FE7]
Copy OK
Track 5
Filename Wond'ring Aloud.wav
Peak level 58.6 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC FF84364C
Accurately ripped (confidence 9) [38BCE4DD]
Copy OK
Track 6
Filename Up to Me.wav
Peak level 88.8 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 8513AF06
Accurately ripped (confidence 9) [33EB746B]
Copy OK
Track 7
Filename My God.wav
Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 15F7A758
Accurately ripped (confidence 9) [8F2DE6C3]
Copy OK
Track 8
Filename Hymn 43.wav
Peak level 83.4 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 2E9D5DB3
Accurately ripped (confidence 8) [33F3B51A]
Copy OK
Track 9
Filename Slipstream.wav
Peak level 60.1 %
Track quality 99.7 %
Test CRC 08107C67
Accurately ripped (confidence 9) [E22086EE]
Copy OK
Track 10
Filename Locomotive Breath.wav
Peak level 90.9 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC BD394461
Accurately ripped (confidence 9) [6470EA7A]
Copy OK
Track 11
Filename Wind-up.wav
Peak level 91.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Test CRC 83D03F7D
Accurately ripped (confidence 6) [C59832BE]
Copy OK
All tracks accurately ripped
No errors occurred

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Here I go again...

From memory: When I first bought Aqualung at the dawn of the CD era - the USA & Canadian CD's were badly edited and the hiss level leading into Wind Up was unacceptable to me. All the early import CD's WG, Japan+ that I had or that friends owned were complete versions with acceptable hiss levels.

I've concluded that the UK blue box (43:34timing) CDP32 1044-2 inner ring CDP 321044 2 . 2 - :3:10EMI Swindon is the best balanced sound to my ears - hiss intact at an acceptable level and of all the versions I've heard Up To Me is my favourite in sound here.

 

I hated this CD when it came out. There was something wrong about the sound all around and yes, I was annoyed as heck about Wind Up. I understand the warmth argument BUT there's a something missing from this. Maybe I should use some Walker CD solution with this and see what happens......

 

My UK Swindon CDP32 1044 is 43:33 and sounds good.

I also have a VK Canada cd that times at 43:24 and sounds good as well. It has different peak values to anything posted in this thread. Another unique mastering?

 

Have you heard the Made in Japan for West Germany version - matrix number 610016-222? It has been compared to the DCC version. Very crankable

 

According to Roland's EAC table, the Japan for WG has the same mastering as the UK CDP 32 1044-2. It's a great sounding disc IMHO

 

DAMN! there are so many Aqualung masterings my head is spinning!

we need to get a complete listing in one place of all the CD masterings!

one of my all time favorite albums.

 

Okay, here's a list of all of the known CD pressings of Aqualung before the horrible NR'd remaster.

If you have any of these, could you please check 4 things:

- EAC values
- Total time
- How many repeats of the riff before the drums enter on "Aqualung"?
- Is the last 20 seconds of "Wind Up" missing?



610 016-222
Japan for West Germany
Sanyo Japan

(43:34?)

94.1% / 86.9% / 61.8% / 86.6% / 58.6% / 88.8% / 100.0% / 83.4% / 60.1% / 90.9% / 91.0%



610 016-222
West Germany
Sonopress Germany

(43:34?)

94.1% / 86.9% / 61.8% / 86.6% / 58.6% / 88.8% / 100.0% / 83.4% / 60.1% / 90.9% / 91.0%



CDP 32 1044 2
UK
EMI SWINDON

(43:34)

94.1% / 86.9% / 61.8% / 86.6% / 58.6% / 88.8% / 100.0% / 83.4% / 60.1% / 90.9% / 91.0%



CCD 1044
West Germany for UK
gray/silver painted

(43:29)

98.4% / 45.7% / 38.8% / 33.3% / 32.9% / 49.9% / 48.8% / 59.9% / 17.7% / 54.9% / 47.2%



CCD 1044
UK
UK Nimbus

(43:27)

94.1% / 86.9% / 61.8% / 86.6% / 58.6% / 88.8% / 100.0% / 83.4% / 60.1% / 90.9% / 91.0%



CP28-1033
Japan
Green Line

(??:??)

97.5% / 79.2% / 81.6% / 100.0% / 71.2% / 83.2% / 89.5% / 80.1% / 81.9% / 100.0% / 78.8%



GZS-1105
DCC GOLD

(??:??)

100.0% / 100.0% / 60.0% / 91.2% / 58.2% / 100.0% / 98.0% / 100.0% / 59.8% / 100.0% / 100.0%



VK 41044
Japan for US
CSR COMPACT DISC
Matrix: DIDX-68 11

(43:32)

???



VK 41044
US for US
Digital Audio Disc Corp.
Matrix: DIDX-68 41A5, DIDX-68 11A1

(42:57) Shortest version

77.6 % / 67.4 % / 72.1 % / 77.6 % / 68.2 % / 76.4 % / 75.5 % / 80.2 % / 42.3 % / 80.2 % / 75.7 %



VK 41044
US for US
Digital Audio Disc Corp.
Matrix: DIDX-68 7

(43:27)

???

 

seems like the VK 41044 with the 42:57 time wasn't around too long, and it appears to be the first US release...later corrected.

 

BTW, my copy is VK 41044 DIDY 68 (Columbia House) and the timing of my copy has been mentioned earlier in the thread (43:27):

Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 5 from 4. May 2009

EAC extraction logfile from 23. September 2009, 20:53

Jethro Tull / Aqualung

Used drive : HL-DT-STDVD-RW_GSA-H41N Adapter: 1 ID: 0

Read mode : Secure
Utilize accurate stream : Yes
Defeat audio cache : No
Make use of C2 pointers : No

Read offset correction : 667
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
Null samples used in CRC calculations : No
Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
Gap handling : Not detected, thus appended to previous track

Used output format : Internal WAV Routines
Sample format : 44.100 Hz; 16 Bit; Stereo


TOC of the extracted CD

Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
---------------------------------------------------------
1 | 0:00.00 | 6:33.10 | 0 | 29484
2 | 6:33.10 | 4:09.60 | 29485 | 48219
3 | 10:42.70 | 1:23.15 | 48220 | 54459
4 | 12:06.10 | 3:53.57 | 54460 | 71991
5 | 15:59.67 | 1:54.50 | 71992 | 80591
6 | 17:54.42 | 3:15.63 | 80592 | 95279
7 | 21:10.30 | 7:11.40 | 95280 | 127644
8 | 28:21.70 | 3:18.10 | 127645 | 142504
9 | 31:40.05 | 1:13.35 | 142505 | 148014
10 | 32:53.40 | 4:26.30 | 148015 | 167994
11 | 37:19.70 | 6:07.05 | 167995 | 195524


Track 1

Filename C:\Users\Bradley and Carol\Desktop\Jethro Tull - Aqualung\Aqualung.wav

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 99.6 %
Copy CRC 835FCD7F
Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 6) [8514E94E], AccurateRip returned [44170616]
Copy OK

Track 2

Filename C:\Users\Bradley and Carol\Desktop\Jethro Tull - Aqualung\Cross-Eyed Mary.wav

Peak level 92.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC 4E979C6B
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [E475D785]
Copy OK

Track 3

Filename C:\Users\Bradley and Carol\Desktop\Jethro Tull - Aqualung\Cheap Day Return.wav

Peak level 89.9 %
Track quality 99.8 %
Copy CRC 977B8808
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [F44187F2]
Copy OK

Track 4

Filename C:\Users\Bradley and Carol\Desktop\Jethro Tull - Aqualung\Mother Goose.wav

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 99.9 %
Copy CRC E05F1868
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [D01F5CCB]
Copy OK

Track 5

Filename C:\Users\Bradley and Carol\Desktop\Jethro Tull - Aqualung\Wond'ring Aloud.wav

Peak level 89.5 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC ECDC1BED
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [08DEED8D]
Copy OK

Track 6

Filename C:\Users\Bradley and Carol\Desktop\Jethro Tull - Aqualung\Up To Me.wav

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC 40BD8455
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [7B8B75D2]
Copy OK

Track 7

Filename C:\Users\Bradley and Carol\Desktop\Jethro Tull - Aqualung\My God.wav

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC 166563E7
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [AEB4E98B]
Copy OK

Track 8

Filename C:\Users\Bradley and Carol\Desktop\Jethro Tull - Aqualung\Hymn 43.wav

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC E7D25548
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [41408122]
Copy OK

Track 9

Filename C:\Users\Bradley and Carol\Desktop\Jethro Tull - Aqualung\Slipstream.wav

Peak level 96.8 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC C5E48371
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [A3098030]
Copy OK

Track 10

Filename C:\Users\Bradley and Carol\Desktop\Jethro Tull - Aqualung\Locomotive Breath.wav

Peak level 100.0 %
Track quality 99.9 %
Copy CRC B0223130
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [6324DD4A]
Copy OK

Track 11

Filename C:\Users\Bradley and Carol\Desktop\Jethro Tull - Aqualung\Wind-Up.wav

Peak level 86.2 %
Track quality 100.0 %
Copy CRC CEC16659
Accurately ripped (confidence 2) [4AB48EF1]
Copy OK


10 track(s) accurately ripped
1 track(s) could not be verified as accurate

Some tracks could not be verified as accurate

No errors occurred

End of status report

 

My copy for the most part is well mastered with the exception of Wind Up and while it's orignal waveform has a DR+ rating of 16, multiband compression with the "Pop Master" setting in Adobe Audition brought more sound into it although the DR+ rating is a 10 with the compression compared to the original waveform's DR+ rating of 15. The intro of Locomotive on my copy used some multiband compression to bring a little bit more out of the recording and the DR+ ratings of both the original waveform and my revision of it is 17.

The CD does have lots of hiss, but that's a good thing I have tried hiss reduction on the recordings, and life would have been removed and I didn't save the hiss reduction in the waveforms.

 

Thanks for the info Brad. How many riffs at the beginning before the drums come in?

 

As coincidence would have it, today I just happened to run across a 'Japan for USA' Chrysalis pressed CD, with 'DIDX-68 11' stamped in the inner mirror band, and 'CSR' repeating in the clear plastic hub. To top it off, the damn thing looks unplayed, with even the smooth sided frosted jewel case, looking like new.

Anyway, this thing is REALLY quiet. Even when I turn it up to normal listening volume, it just doesn't seem to have any life in it. I don't know, maybe I just need to do several more listens, and see if it grows on me? At this point, I much prefer the U.S. 'DADC' pressing with the last :25 of 'Wind Up' missing. Hiss and all.

So here are the EAC peak levels for the 'Japan for USA' VK 41044 DIDX 68' Chrysalis CD:

TOC of the extracted CD

Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
---------------------------------------------------------
1 | 0:00.00 | 6:33.25 | 0 | 29499
2 | 6:33.25 | 4:09.52 | 29500 | 48226
3 | 10:43.02 | 1:23.48 | 48227 | 54499
4 | 12:06.50 | 3:53.45 | 54500 | 72019
5 | 16:00.20 | 1:55.72 | 72020 | 80716
6 | 17:56.17 | 3:18.08 | 80717 | 95574
7 | 21:14.25 | 7:12.27 | 95575 | 128001
8 | 28:26.52 | 3:19.48 | 128002 | 142974
9 | 31:46.25 | 1:13.00 | 142975 | 148449
10 | 32:59.25 | 4:26.35 | 148450 | 168434
11 | 37:25.60 | 6:04.65 | 168435 | 195799


Track 1

Aqualung.wav

Peak level 83.7 %


Track 2

Cross-Eyed Mary.wav

Peak level 38.9 %


Track 3

Cheap Day Return.wav

Peak level 33.7 %


Track 4

Desktop\Mother Goose.wav

Peak level 28.3 %


Track 5

Wond'ring Aloud.wav

Peak level 28.0 %


Track 6

Up To Me.wav

Peak level 42.5 %


Track 7

My God.wav

Peak level 40.6 %


Track 8

Hymn 43.wav

Peak level 49.8 %


Track 9

Slipstream.wav

Peak level 14.7 %


Track 10

Locomotive Breath.wav

Peak level 45.7 %


Track 11

Wind-Up.wav

Peak level 39.2 %


No errors occurred

End of status report

 

Holy hell that's quiet! 14.7%!

Talk about not using all 16 bits!

Here's the compiled list:

610 016-222
Japan for West Germany
Sanyo Japan

94.1% / 86.9% / 61.8% / 86.6% / 58.6% / 88.8% / 100.0% / 83.4% / 60.1% / 90.9% / 91.0%



610 016-222
West Germany
Sonopress Germany

94.1% / 86.9% / 61.8% / 86.6% / 58.6% / 88.8% / 100.0% / 83.4% / 60.1% / 90.9% / 91.0%



CDP 32 1044 2
UK
EMI SWINDON

(43:34)

94.1% / 86.9% / 61.8% / 86.6% / 58.6% / 88.8% / 100.0% / 83.4% / 60.1% / 90.9% / 91.0%



CCD 1044
West Germany for UK
gray/silver painted

(43:29)

98.4% / 45.7% / 38.8% / 33.3% / 32.9% / 49.9% / 48.8% / 59.9% / 17.7% / 54.9% / 47.2%



CCD 1044
UK
UK Nimbus

(43:27)

94.1% / 86.9% / 61.8% / 86.6% / 58.6% / 88.8% / 100.0% / 83.4% / 60.1% / 90.9% / 91.0%



CP28-1033
Japan
Green Line

97.5% / 79.2% / 81.6% / 100.0% / 71.2% / 83.2% / 89.5% / 80.1% / 81.9% / 100.0% / 78.8%



GZS-1105
DCC GOLD

100.0% / 100.0% / 60.0% / 91.2% / 58.2% / 100.0% / 98.0% / 100.0% / 59.8% / 100.0% / 100.0%



VK 41044
Japan for US
CSR COMPACT DISC
Matrix: DIDX-68 11

(43:32)

83.7 % / 38.9 % / 33.7 % / 28.3 % / 28.0 % / 42.5 % / 40.6 % / 49.8 % / 14.7 % / 45.7 % / 39.2 %



VK 41044
US for US
Digital Audio Disc Corp.
Matrix: DIDX-68 41A5, DIDX-68 11A1

Shortest version (42:57)

77.6 % / 67.4 % / 72.1 % / 77.6 % / 68.2 % / 76.4 % / 75.5 % / 80.2 % / 42.3 % / 80.2 % / 75.7 %



VK 41044
US for US
Digital Audio Disc Corp.
Matrix: DIDX-68 7

(43:27)

100.0 % / 92.0 % / 89.9 % /100.0 % / 89.5 % / 100.0 % / 100.0 % / 100.0 % / 96.8 % / 100.0 % / 86.2 %

 

I've given this CD several listens tonight, and I've come to the conclusion it's a total TURD!!! This thing sounds really BAD!!!

This 'Japan for USA' pressing of 'Aqualung' is only recommended for the completist, who doesn't have this in their 'Aqualung' collection yet. Any reason other than that, and it's a total waste.

Oops, almost forgot...Just My Humble Opinion of course.

 

Here's my Made in Canada by Cinram VK 41044 Aqualung:


43:24, missing the first set of riffs, but having the full Wind Up.


Track 1

Filename C:\Aqualung.wav
Peak level 97.7 %

Track 2

Filename C:\Cross-Eyed Mary.wav
Peak level 89.9 %

Track 3

Filename C:\Cheap Day Return.wav
Peak level 87.9 %

Track 4

Filename C:\Mother Goose.wav
Peak level 97.7 %

Track 5

Filename C:\Wond'ring Aloud.wav
Peak level 87.4 %

Track 6

Filename C:\Up To Me.wav
Peak level 97.7 %

Track 7

Filename C:\My God.wav
Peak level 97.7 %

Track 8

Filename C:\Hymn 43.wav
Peak level 97.7 %

Track 9

Filename C:\Slipstream.wav
Peak level 94.6 %

Track 10

Filename C:\Locomotive Breath.wav
Peak level 97.7 %

Track 11

Filename C:\Wind-Up.wav
Peak level 84.3 %

 

I'll be on the lookout for it. I also wonder if my Japan-for-U.S. disc (43:32) has a unique mastering. I'll have to post EAC peak levels when I'm home.

 

Here is the first minute and 31 seconds of my copy of "Wind-Up" The first portion was taken flat from the CD, and the 2nd part of it is the same portion but with multiband compression applied to make it more audible.

https://www.yousendit.com/download/ZW9COU1WT01PSHhFQlE9PQ

 

seems like there are more masterings than we thought!

 

Did anybody listen to my sample?

 

Just acquired a Japan for W. Germany Chrysalis (610 016-222 - pressed by Sanyo).

Very impressive disc. Here's a sample I put together with it first and then a clip from the DCC:

https://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=batch_download&batch_id=ZW9DT204cklCMTd2Wmc9PQ

 

It is an impressive disc! It's the only one I listen to now.

 

Can you guys scan and post pics?