FLEETWOOD MAC Rumours -- New WB vinyl, "Gold Dust Woman" mix variation question...

Thanks Steve. I guess this is probably the "medium scream" version of "Gold Dust Woman" on this pressing.

 

My pressing with some prominent wailing has matrix numbers of:
Side 1: BSK-1-3010 SM2 F7
Side 2: BSK-2-3010 WW1 F5

 

Steve,

Are you done with this one then? You know that I am on the edge of my seat. My copy of Rumours is the medium scream version. That means that I've never heard the 'full-on' version, which is what I assume that you have cut.

I can't imagine working on such an important work of art just after my baby was born. You have my admiration.....more than usual.

 

I just came back from playing my copy. I noticed that after the toms come in, the song starts building in volume and intensity. The screaming and howling doesn't sound too in your face. But the other thing I noticed is that the breaking glass sound effects toward the end are pretty buried in the mix since there is a lot going on. Are they more up front in other mix you mentioned?

 

Does it have 'kp' in small letters on both sides?

 

No it does not have Ken's initials on this pressing.

 

I have a promo pressing of 'Rumours', that has the intense howling at the end of 'Gold Dust Woman', and Ken Perry's initials are on both sides. Again, they are VERY small, and can easily be overlooked.

 

Here's the info you requested Steve...

Side One:

BSK-1-3010 LW2 (F12 scratched out) W1 Sub + 1 'KP'

Side Two:

BSK-2-3010 WW1 (F5 scratched out) W1 'KP'

Both sides say 'Mastered by Capitol'

I've included some photos of the album cover, and the labels. I hope this helps.

 

I've always wondered... what does "sub" mean?

 

The EASIEST way to solve this would be to cut three different versions and send them out to us at random!

(Seriously, I can't wait for this one!!)

 

This appears to be the WB strategy since 1977.

 

Steve - just a shot in the dark, but perhaps "substitute"?

 

I checked my copy again, and I did find Ken Perry's initials on both sides. They were very easy to miss since not only were the etchings quite faint, but they're also microscopically small. I thought I could write small!

 

sub-license?

 

I've always understood it to mean, that it is the dub master that you would create as soon as your finished editing the master tape.

 

I've seen it on a few other LP matrices, sometimes just for one side. And it almost always was on a WEA-related LP (Warner, Reprise, Elektra, Asylum, Sire, etc... WEA 70s and 80s labels).

 

Scott, My promo has exactly the same matrix info as yours. The only (probably inconsequential) difference is that my Side One clearly shows "SUB # 1".

I believe the mastering on our promos came from:

Side One...from a lacquer cut in Los Angeles, CA.

Side Two...from a lacquer cut in Winchester, VA.

I can't help but wonder which of the many possible mastering combinations of all the songs might have been stamped into this biscuit, had I not "rescued" it from a pressing machine at Capitol's Winchester plant in October 1977.

 

Steve,

Absolutely fascinating thread. I think its great that you share these little treasures here!

I was just wondering, apart from the different endings, what condition the original master tapes are in. Those things must have been played an awful lot!

Also, do you what was put onto the original CD release?

Cheers

David

 

I've heard that the 8-track has a strange mix, as well, or is it just looped? I actually have an 8-track copy, should I put it on?



Dan