I have the same barcode but it's the European version. My front of disc has 7599-25838-2 Also sounds very good.
Looks like Teldec was in transition in 1988, a little later they added the RSA. I'm a sucker for variants, my US is the standard 16 tracker so I ordered a Teldec. Should be the same mastering between the two Germans/UK. The mastering may be different from the US 16. We'll see
I have both the Teldec and the US but I don't know where the Teldec is right now. I can't remember if the mastering is the same. Sorry, Cory.
Well, get to digging! Surprisingly Caroline a domestic seller had that first Teldec for dirt cheap. It's probably an un-proven bias but I really enjoy their manufactures.
It did indeed. I have both, just to cover all bases (and because I'm a FM nut). Never thought to compare the masterings! EG.
I had no idea Eric till Speedmaster brought it up there were differences! Wouldn't of even crossed my mind for a standard Warner GH title. Hopefully it's just those two and not something like the monstrosity that is Eurythmic's-GH
From the DR database archive: The US/Canada pressing with 16 tracks- -DR Peak RMS Filename ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ DR12 -0.78 dB -15.55 dB 01 Fleetwood Mac - Rhiannon.wav DR14 -1.09 dB -16.85 dB 02 Fleetwood Mac - Don't Stop.wav DR13 -1.23 dB -16.18 dB 03 Fleetwood Mac - Go Your Own Way.wav DR13 -0.31 dB -16.40 dB 04 Fleetwood Mac - Hold Me.wav DR15 -1.56 dB -19.07 dB 05 Fleetwood Mac - Everywhere.wav DR15 -0.61 dB -17.95 dB 06 Fleetwood Mac - Gypsy.wav DR13 over -15.22 dB 07 Fleetwood Mac - You Make Loving Fun.wav DR12 -0.31 dB -15.03 dB 08 Fleetwood Mac - As Long as You Follow.wav DR16 -0.00 dB -18.86 dB 09 Fleetwood Mac - Dreams.wav DR13 -1.67 dB -16.84 dB 10 Fleetwood Mac - Say You Love Me.wav DR15 -0.02 dB -18.08 dB 11 Fleetwood Mac - Tusk.wav DR14 -0.64 dB -17.38 dB 12 Fleetwood Mac - Little Lies.wav DR16 -0.08 dB -18.57 dB 13 Fleetwood Mac - Sara.wav DR14 -0.04 dB -15.55 dB 14 Fleetwood Mac - Big Love.wav DR13 -0.84 dB -16.82 dB 15 Fleetwood Mac - Over My Head.wav DR11 -0.01 dB -14.49 dB 16 Fleetwood Mac - No Questions Asked.wav Number of files: 16 Official DR value: DR14 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And the 17-track WG pressing for the EU/UK market: - DR Peak RMS Filename ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR12 -1.09 dB -15.55 dB 01 Fleetwood Mac - Rhiannon.aiff DR13 -1.27 dB -15.98 dB 02 Fleetwood Mac - Go Your Own Way.aiff DR14 -1.17 dB -16.80 dB 03 Fleetwood Mac - Don't Stop.aiff DR15 -0.65 dB -17.90 dB 04 Fleetwood Mac - Gypsy.aiff DR15 -2.11 dB -19.00 dB 05 Fleetwood Mac - Everywhere.aiff DR13 -0.02 dB -15.58 dB 06 Fleetwood Mac - You Make Loving Fun.aiff DR14 -0.39 dB -15.61 dB 07 Fleetwood Mac - Big Love.aiff DR12 -0.00 dB -14.07 dB 08 Fleetwood Mac - As Long As You Follow.aiff DR13 -0.75 dB -15.82 dB 09 Fleetwood Mac - Say You Love Me.aiff DR16 -0.09 dB -18.86 dB 10 Fleetwood Mac - Dreams.aiff DR14 -0.24 dB -16.80 dB 11 Fleetwood Mac - Little Lies.aiff DR13 -2.18 dB -17.37 dB 12 Fleetwood Mac - Oh Diane.aiff DR16 -0.21 dB -18.59 dB 13 Fleetwood Mac - Sara.aiff DR15 -0.16 dB -18.06 dB 14 Fleetwood Mac - Tusk.aiff DR14 -0.18 dB -16.42 dB 15 Fleetwood Mac - Seven Wonders.aiff DR13 -0.55 dB -16.59 dB 16 Fleetwood Mac - Hold Me.aiff DR11 -0.00 dB -12.76 dB 17 Fleetwood Mac - No Questions Asked.aiff ------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- Number of files: 17 Official DR value: DR14 =================================================================================== EG.
Thanks Eric. I don't trust AIFF format running through the meter. I've seen some skewed results from it.
It's not about the AIFF format but the standalone DR tool for Apple computers spits out incorrect values. Here are the correct values for the Euro Alsdorf press. Looks like the same mastering as the US with some tracks level shifted. Code: DR Peak RMS Duration Track -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- DR12 -0.78 dB -15.55 dB 4:11 01-Rhiannon DR13 -1.03 dB -15.98 dB 3:38 02-Go Your Own Way DR14 -1.09 dB -16.80 dB 3:12 03-Don't Stop DR15 -0.61 dB -17.90 dB 4:23 04-Gypsy DR15 -1.56 dB -19.01 dB 3:42 05-Everywhere DR13 0.00 dB -15.58 dB 3:31 06-You Make Loving Fun DR14 -0.04 dB -15.55 dB 3:39 07-Big Love DR12 0.00 dB -14.07 dB 4:12 08-As Long as You Follow DR13 -0.63 dB -15.80 dB 4:10 09-Say You Love Me DR16 0.00 dB -18.86 dB 4:16 10-Dreams DR14 -0.16 dB -16.81 dB 3:38 11-Little Lies DR13 -1.69 dB -17.36 dB 2:34 12-Oh Diane DR16 -0.08 dB -18.60 dB 6:25 13-Sara DR15 0.00 dB -17.99 dB 3:26 14-Tusk DR14 0.00 dB -16.43 dB 3:33 15-Seven Wonders DR13 -0.55 dB -16.58 dB 3:44 16-Hold Me DR11 0.00 dB -12.75 dB 4:41 17-No Questions Asked --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow, that explains a lot, not just about the entries for this CD but for the entire database. I can’t believe I never knew that. Thanks!
Yes, most entries with Apple developed file extensions like AIFF and M4A are probably incorrect because of that faulty tool. I don't understand why it's still offered for download on the DR database site. Incorrect info is worse than no info at all, in my opinion.
