Dire Straits - BROTHERS IN ARMS - XRCD: good or bad?

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  1. The stereo program on the SACD was just a remastering, not a remix. The 5.1 was (obviously) a multichannel remix. Maybe that's where the confusion lies.
     
  2. soundboy

    soundboy Senior Member

    This XRCD, along with those from the Eagles, Diana Krall, the Carpenters, Aaron Neville, Kenny G, etc., were commissioned by Hong Kong Universal Music. These XRCDs were made in Japan and were intended for the Hong Kong market only. In fact, all of HK's major labels, plus the independent labels, release XRCD versions of their titles, so XRCD versions are not all that unusual.
     
  3. Stereophile also said that 1 was the best the Beatles have ever sounded on CD. :shrug:

    See, every thread IS a Beatles thread!
     
  4. Kayaker

    Kayaker Senior Member

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    Thanks for the clarification Soundboy. :righton:
    Do you know if the same fine XRCD engineers from Japan that are involved in the Non-HK releases are involved in this one?
     
  5. soundboy

    soundboy Senior Member

    I'd have to get back to you on that since I'm at work. I do remember that every one of these XRCD are remastered in Japan by a Japanese engineer. I've never seen the name of a HK engineer involved in the production....and this include XRCD of local titles.

    Btw, as further clarification and I must emphasize, these XRCDs are intended for the HK market only. Outside of HK, with the exception of SE Asia and the southern Chinese province of Guangdong, the traditional Chinese characters that are printed on labels or inside the booklets are hard to understand for the mainland Chinese population. Therefore, these XRCDs are not intended for mainland China. Along this line, the remastering or sound quality is somewhat "geared" towards the sound quality preference of HK audiophiles....which may not match those in the West.
     
  6. curbach

    curbach Some guy on the internet

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    My XRCD of Hell Freezes Over lists Hiromichi Takiguchi as the mastering engineer. It says manufactured in Japan and appears to be a JVC pressing (which would make sense).
     
  7. soundboy

    soundboy Senior Member

    The Carpenters XRCD's mastering engineer was Sugimoto Kazuie. It's a XRCD2 title. I couldn't get a clean scan of the cover, but I will post a pic of two of this CD later on.
     
  8. soundboy

    soundboy Senior Member

    Here you go....

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  9. btomarra

    btomarra Classic Rock Audiophile

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  10. Vader67

    Vader67 Forum Resident

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    I've heard that the SACD of Brothers in Arms is even worse than the XRCD in the digital compression department but I can't tell for sure, I don't have a SACD Player and therefore didn't buy it.
     
  11. Same here, but consider both very good.
     
  12. btomarra

    btomarra Classic Rock Audiophile

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    That was from the 2005 20th anniversary remaster......
     
  13. christopher

    christopher Forum Neurotic

    another vote for the dual disc.

    i've also got the RL remastered CD and recently found an original LP used also mastered by Bob Ludwig which sounds very good, too.

    later, chris
     
  14. soundboy

    soundboy Senior Member

    Hong Kong Universal Music just announced Dire Straits' "Brothers In Arms" XRCD going SHM....

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    Yes, one of the other title that this forum may be interested is the Eagles' "Hell Freezes Over". Only 300 discs will be pressed for each of the SHM-XRCD titles.

    These titles will likely be available at the beginning of August, when Hong Kong host its annual "High-End Audio Visual Show".
     
  15. That's like polishing a turd!
     
  16. Tim 2

    Tim 2 MORE MUSIC PLEASE

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    Most of my SACD's are not better than there red book versions . In general Iv'e been disappointed with SACD , at first I thought it might be my player even though it was highly touted . When I upgraded CD players about a year ago , I made sure the new one had a good reputation for SACD too . ( AYRE C5Mp ) . But my opinion of them has not changed .
     
  17. Huh. Most SACDs I have purchased have sounded much better than CD, with a round, warm, organic vinyl-like quality vis a vis the CD. However, Brothers in Arms is the exception. The SACD is poor sounding due to the compression. Just listen to The Man's Too Strong. It sounds wimpy. The parts that should sound like thunderclaps and jolt you are instead at the same volume as the rest of the song. They have no startling effect whatsoever. FAIL.
     
  18. soundboy

    soundboy Senior Member

    The latest version of "Brothers In Arms", the SHM-XRCD, arrived in the mail yesterday....

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    Haven't had the chance to listen to it yet. As you can see from the pictures, the disc is kinda hard to get at. It's totally enclosed in a clear plastic case, with very hard-to-open flaps. I don't own the "regular" XRCD version, but I think this new SHM-XRCD version is basically the "regular" XRCD, but made with SHM (Super Hard Material).
     
  19. montejay

    montejay Forum Resident

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    +1
     
  20. montejay

    montejay Forum Resident

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    Funny
    It works well if you turn up the volume. Like that option.
    Even my meager 8 watts can get it loud enough
     
  21. Bill Mac

    Bill Mac Forum Resident

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    Is this BIA XRCD2 that is available from Acoustic Sounds the original one that is not that highly regarded? I'm not familiar at all with XRCDs and was wondering if XRCD2s are more recent versions. I have the BIA DualDisc as well as the SACD and I much prefer the DualDisc.

    Bill
     
  22. The best sounding version of this album is the original mastering. I wouldn't bother with any of the more recent remasters. I was thoroughly disappointed with the SACD too.
     
  23. Tullman

    Tullman Senior Member

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    Well....the problem with BIA is that it was recorded at 16/44, which means it is never going to be hi-res.
     
  24. TStewart422

    TStewart422 Forum Resident

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    Has anyone tried running BiA through SoX? It's so darned bright it could almost be missing a pre-emphasis flag.
     
  25. Bill Mac

    Bill Mac Forum Resident

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    Eric,

    Thanks for your thoughts. I have the WG Vertigo (824499-2) which I believe is the original mastering. So with this version and the DualDisc I'll skip buying the XRCD2.

    Bill
     
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