Capitol Beatles Box Set Vol 2 - Apr 11 Release Date? *

Like my little brother likes to say, "No one here gives a Focker what I have to say."

But to answer your question: No. This is definitely NOT an April Fool's joke. The set is on its way as I write.

 

Is this also true of any of the albums in Vol. 1?

 

"I Want To Hold Your Hand" and "This Boy" are in true mono on "Meet The Beatles!",the rest of the mono album is a fold down. Most of The mono "Second Album" is a fold down as well except for "You Can't Do That", "Long Tall Sally", "I'll Get You" and "She Loves You". Both "Something New" and "Beatles '65" contain all true mono mixes.

 

Isn't the mono "Roll Over Beethoven" on "Second Album" a true mono mix? It doesn't have a ton of reverb like the stereo version does.

 

I'm surprised so many people are questioning Wollensack and saying things like "he's completely full of it". All he did was listen to it and report back. I have no reason to doubt his truthfulness. I appreciate that he went to the trouble to listen to it and report back to us what he heard. We should be THANKING him!

 

Larry, Capitol really should have contracted with you to write the liner notes for the box

 

Irish release date has also slipped a week. No boxset for me today :thumbsdn:

Ken

 

"I Call Your Name" on the mono "Second Album" is a true mono mix, and also a very unique one, one that wasn't released anywhere else in the world(listen to where the cowbell comes in).

Evan

 

State attorneys general likely have more pressing instances of consumer fraud to deal with than whether or not this box set contains historically accurate substandard reverb-drenched mono mixes or newly created substandard reverb-drenched mono mixes. Outside of the people who have posted on this thread, 99% of the people who buy this will not have the slightest inkling of what mixes have been used. I doubt that Capitol/EMI attorneys even comprehend the issues at stake here, and I question whether the sale of new mono fold-downs would constitute deceptive advertising - there have been hundreds, if not thousands, of CDs mastered from safety dubs or "wrong" masters over the years - as long as the CD does in fact play "Ticket To Ride" in whatever mangled mix was in fact chosen, what would the consumer have to complain about?

 

You are considering purchasing this set? After reading some of your recent posts in this thread I'd be curious to know why.

 

I agree with this completely. It's absurd to think that this would come to a legal matter. The worst that would come of this is some bad pr for capitol.

By the way, I think there will have to be a lot of apologizing to wollensack.

 

It's the Beatles. That's what so sad about the whole ongoing mess with the Beatles' catalog since 1987. Capitol/EMI/Apple is never punished for their mishandling of the catalog, because the Beatles mean so much to so many millions of people that they will buy whatever is released. I'll buy this box for the same reason I bought the first box - for the chance to hear the improved CD mastering of some songs that, although they are intentionally crippled by the absurd insistence on faithfulness to the original Capitol mixes, are still better than the 20-year-old out-of-date mastering on the 1987 CDs.

 

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Update (3/31/06) Here are some links to promos for the new boxed set:
Windows Media

http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/capi001/beatles/vol2/vol2_epk_pre_v100.asx
http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/capi001/beatles/vol2/vol2_epk_pre_v300.asx
Real Player:
http://boss.streamos.com/real/capi001/beatles/vol2/vol2_epk_pre_v100.ram http://boss.streamos.com/real/capi001/beatles/vol2/vol2_epk_pre_v300.ram
Quicktime:
http://boss.streamos.com/qtime/capi001/beatles/vol2/vol2_epk_pre_v100.mov
http://boss.streamos.com/qtime/capi001/beatles/vol2/vol2_epk_pre_v300.mov

 

I don't want to comment on this any further other than to say that I was speaking about the plaintiffs' bar--not state attorneys general--and this sort of action would be right up their alley.

Believe me, EMI legal has these *exact* concerns in mind when they sell and market products. Trust me, I am well-qualified to speak about this area. However, outside of my professional representation of clients, I do not discuss the law, and will not discuss specifics in this forum, or anywhere else.

 

Maybe you should read the other replies to his posting...many others here dont believe him either, and it is April Fool's Day tomorrow. I was just stating my opinion.

Also, I was told by Bruce Spizer that the Help cd wouldnt have the gatefold cover, and the one in the EPK doesnt. Im pretty sure that what you see is what we're getting

 

Okay I admit I shouldnt have went as far as saying he was "full of it", but I would still like some more proof that he has this set (like maybe some pics). If he did get a bogus pressing of the discs, I really just think it's the advance copy and not the actual retail pressing. Maybe Apple/Capitol dont want the actual product being out this early. I thought that was the whole idea behind the "sampler" cd.

 

Speaking of the sampler CD, supposedly it's out now. People are discussing the sampler, which has 8 songs in stereo and also mono, on the Yahoo Beatles-Collectors group. You can see the sampler here on eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Beatles-Capitol...goryZ432QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Now if someone can get a hold of this and let us know what mix the mono "I've Just Seen A Face" is...

Chris

 

I think you put too little faith in the Beatles fans who will be purchasing this set. I agree, some people wouldn't have a clue if all the mixes were incorrect, but 99%?

 

I have played the mono & stereo mixes for friends who aren't exactly major Beatles fans, and they think they're just hearing the same song twice. In fact, some think I'm nuts for buying the same songs over & over again, but would Capitol really try to pass these by as mono mixes if they weren't authentic? I would think that they released this set to target the real fans who know these mixes and will be disappointed if they're not the correct versions, otherwise wouldnt they just reissue the UK stereo mixes in the Capitol running order?

 

Even when they do a "fold-down" mono mix, I still think there is some balancing involved. I've tried doing stereo to mono and usually one channel will be louder than the other in certain spots. The Capitol Starline 45 of "From Me To You" in '65 was just the stereo mix in mono, but when I tried to recreate this mix the vocal / music balance was off in most places. I'm sure there is some work involved in the fold-down mixes.

 

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