Black Sabbath Paranoid Deluxe Edition

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  1. Billy Taylor

    Billy Taylor Forum Resident

    :agree: :agree:
    :agree: :agree:
     
  2. Metralla

    Metralla Joined Jan 13, 2002

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    I am sure this is the one with the SACD.
     
  3. I commented early in the thread that dollars to donuts it will be Dolby Digital, but hope does spring eternal, and maybe we will get both DD (or DTS for those that care) and a 24/96 DVD-A track like The Beatles "Love".

    Brian
     
  4. Dalziel53

    Dalziel53 Senior Member

    Are you saying they are both the same? This thread is for the Deluxe Edition.
     
  5. frankzevon

    frankzevon New Member

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    Knoxville,TN
    This is going the be the one on amazon listed as a sacd. I think sacd is dead with major companies and its just listed wrong on amazon. This is a good chance to make this great album into the best sounding version. I own the blackbox and the old WB of this album. We all know about the blackbox :realmad: and on the old WB War Pigs sounds great while the rest sounds kinda muddy (I only have a mid 70's reissue on the wb palm tree label lp and its been well played so hard to know what it should sound like) I will buy this set even if it sounds bad because thats how I am :help:

    Hoping for a miracle!
     
  6. steveharris

    steveharris Senior Member

    Location:
    Mass
    I would have liked more live sabbath but I`m interested in hearing the instrumentals as long as they are not poor recordings or really played inferior
    to the competed songs.it would be nice to hear some alternate Iommi riffs from the sessions.oh yeah i`ll definitly check it out for the remastered sound
     
  7. BIG ED

    BIG ED Forum Resident

    So...
    no matter what the format, we will get the true:
    QUAD

    Cool!
    Thanks.
     
  8. SoundAdvice

    SoundAdvice Senior Member

    Location:
    Vancouver
    Who's heard the QUAD mix?
     
  9. Jeff Carney

    Jeff Carney Fan Of Specifics (No Koolaid)

    Location:
    SF
    Hard to beat this review from Head Heritage (www.headheritage.co.uk):


    Black Sabbath
    Paranoid (Quadrophonic)
    Released 1974 on Warner Brothers
    Reviewed by The Seth Man, 9th May 2000ce

    It’s a blessing to have found this album at all. To say that this version of “Paranoid” (remixed and released four years after its initial release) is ‘different’ from the stereo version is about as wild an understatement as saying Sabbath themselves were merely ‘heavy.’ Every track was remixed to quad by engineer Mike Butcher and aided by the fantastically-named Spock Wall, who were deeply involved in the engineering of Sabbath’s masterful LP “Sabotage” (To even imagine a quad version of THAT...) Unfortunately, this was the only Sabbath LP given the quad treatment, and that’s a pity because for once you get to hear the soundtrack of your misspent youth as rendered into a 4-way aural head megaforce. And we’re not talking about lame, super-smeared “SQ” either, but the higher-separated (and therefore, superior) “Quadradisc” (or CD-4, as it was technically termed.)

    I recently hooked up my 1973-era CD-4 system to listen to this classic for the first time in CD-4. Within forty minutes I was on the phone to a friend whose enthusiasm for Sabbath matched mine, and even before we were mid-“War Pigs” we were reduced to mouth-open awe and hysteria. The sound was about as fat and huge as a pissed-off Sumo and just as funny. And although my friend was situated in the centrally-located “sweet spot”, it hardly mattered: Iommi was panning all over the room, and Ozzy barked call and responses to himself from left to right front channels as the rhythm section continually startled me from behind. “War Pigs” has the opening air raid sirens going on too long and in the wrong spots: they roar from speaker to speaker until the familiar break-in. But familiar pieces are in different places, like an aural equivalent of the classic “Shadowplay” Twilight Zone episode and EQ’ed so that the aural field becomes tangible in front of your face. But the glaring difference on the whole record is the “Luke’s Wall” segment that Joy Division plundered so perfectly on “New Dawn Fades” --
    It doesn’t speed up at the end. Not a bit; it finishes in real time.

    Up until that point you feel like you’re waiting for something ‘different’ to happen, but now it’s all over: “Paranoid” is all severely panned guitars, especially on the buzzsawed-off quadruple-tracked solo. “Planet Caravan” is still the nocturnal dream weaver it always was, but with additional bass and the ersatz-theramin “wooo-woop-woop-woop” circling around the quiet bongo-ringed campfire continues a good half minute longer than usual. The opening SG roar in “Iron Man” rockets from speaker to speaker and Ozzy’s pronouncement is like the stereo version’s just cleared its throat. Every riff Iommi plays here is so full that every hidden or obscured arpeggio cuts loose here, colouring the whole sonic wave into a fearsome tsunami. And Geezer’s bass is so pumped up in the breakdown it sounds like an 18-string Hagstrom built just for that one run. The wah-wah on “Electric Funeral” is louder than imaginable -- like miked boiling porridge through Marshall Super Fuzz. Then again, everything seems to be over-exaggerated and you’re continually freaking out at how close some sounds that were previously mere details take the size of half the sound field. You’re pointing to the space in front of your leg and saying “There! That bass...” or something equally dumb but your friend’s too busy rekindling his acquaintance with Ozzy, who is now doing call and response with himself from left to right speaker on the “You’re having a good time, baby” segment of “Hand Of Doom.” Here, all the guitar parts have a speaker of their own to blast from and even the drums of the faux “Cat’s Squirrel” solo of “Rat Salad” get reshuffled and ping pong from speaker to speaker. By the time Iommi’s guitar swoops in and out of oblivion and all around the room on “Fairies Wear Boots,” you wish “Paranoid” was a double album. But this version already fulfills that wish with a gloriously high-tech roar.
     
  10. rcdupre

    rcdupre Flying is Trying is Dying

    sounds awesome, but if you don't have a quad speaker system will this be worth it? I suppose I'll have to endanger the lives of myself and everyone else on the freeway to hear this correctly...
     
  11. johnny33

    johnny33 New Member

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    Coolbeans! Ok, I know nothing about how quad mixes work. How does something like this work through a stereo set up? I hought quad recordigns have to have a quad setup?:confused: Sorry for my ignorance.
     
  12. SoundAdvice

    SoundAdvice Senior Member

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    Vancouver
    When will we know if the QUAD disc is Hi-Rez?
     
  13. aoxomoxoa

    aoxomoxoa I'm an ear sitting in the sky

    Location:
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    So let me get this straight. The second disc is in 4.0 surround via SACD? Is the whole set SACD? Is it just a "fold down" of the quad mix? Inquiring minds want to know.
     
  14. Dave D

    Dave D Done!

    Location:
    Milton, Canada
    Nothing said in that official announcement. We'll have to wait and see.
     
  15. therockman

    therockman Senior Member In Memoriam




    Buy the import, it is SACD.
     
  16. therockman

    therockman Senior Member In Memoriam




    Read the other Black Sabbath PARANOID thread.
     
  17. Ma Kelly

    Ma Kelly Senior Member

    Location:
    England
    amen! that clip of War Pigs is just unbelievable. its that very clip that means that the Paranoid album doesnt do that much for me. that live War Pigs is the very defintion of ROCK! Bill Ward is just punishing on that clip....classic.
     
  18. applebonkerz

    applebonkerz Senior Member

    Exactly. That clip is what made me start the thread awhile back about how Bill Ward should be considered among the top rock drummers along with the "famous" names. Someone was kind enough to suggest I could seek out and find a great quality DVD version of that whole show making the rounds.

    As a pay-forward, I will mention a very nice digital transfer of the original quad album is making the download rounds too, if anyone would like a preview of what the quad Paranoid disc may resemble.

    I'm excited about being able to get instrumental versions of this stuff too--the instruments are the best part, and sometimes Ozzy is a distraction to totally hearing and enjoying the playing going on.
     
  19. Dave D

    Dave D Done!

    Location:
    Milton, Canada
    Did I miss any official word? Or just website store links saying it's SACD.
     
  20. rcdupre

    rcdupre Flying is Trying is Dying

    yeah, really !
     
  21. johmbolaya

    johmbolaya Active Member

    Location:
    Pacific Northwest
    (merely joking :wave: )






























    somewhat :shh:
     
  22. vinyl diehard

    vinyl diehard Two-Channel Forever

    I'm in! This will be worth purchasing, just for the third disc.
     
  23. rcdupre

    rcdupre Flying is Trying is Dying

    it'll also be worth buying...:eek:
     
  24. motorcitydave

    motorcitydave Enlightened Rogue In Memoriam

    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV, USA
    Sounds cool to me. :shrug:
     
  25. Why do we have two threads discussing the same Deluxe Reissue, or are there actually two reissues?
     
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