Abbey Road - CP35-3016 - The Definitive Guide

Of course!

 

Vernon, I did not use EAC graph levels to determine if they are different masterings. I compared them by listening. Strange as that may seem, it's far more reliable.

Has it been determined yet if the CP32 wave file is different than the CP35?

 

Kinda. They got a 30ips copy of the master. Then that was used for the Pro Use LP which was cut at half speed. Their tape isn't half speed.

 

Bringing back this thread again for a quick question:

Were any of these discs sold with rough-sided jewel cases?

 

AFAIK, yes.

 

OK, gotcha. What I meant is that it was the tape sent to Japan in 1979 for the Pro Use LP.

 

Any ideas which matrices? Were they just with the Toshiba (not CBS)?

 

I'm not so sure but they came with Toshiba, I guess.

 

All right, thanks. The two I've seen in person have both come in smooth sided, but there was one on eBay recently with a rough-sided case, and I didn't know if it was a replacement.

 

Are you sure? I've had a few copies pass through my hands, both being later Toshiba pressings (17A1 and 20A1), and they've all had smooth-sided cases.

 

It is also very possible. I don't think there were the severe distinction.

 

I'm not so sure if you can tell by the matrix. Of the five I have, (3) have smooth cases, (2) ridged. I have (1) sealed with a smooth edge, (1) 15A1 in a smooth sided case, (1) 17A1 in a smooth-sided case and (1) 17A1 in a ridged-sided case, and a 20A1 in a ridge-sided case.

 

How long was it in print? I guess if it stuck around until 1986 then it makes sense that some copies could have had ridged cases. It's still a stretch though. I thought that ridged cases didn't make an appearance until 1987.

 

I'm pretty sure it was OOP well before the end of 1985...

 

That's what I figured. Be interesting to hear if anyone bought sealed CDs with ridged cases before 1987 or 1986.

 

No, the sealed one has a smooth sided case.

My point, when it comes to CD cases, is that people probably have substituted many of the smooth sided with the newer ridged ones.

 

I was thinking of doing that with mine, since the disc is nearly perfect, but the case is all scratched up.

 

I was always under the impression that it was out of print within months, of it's May 1983 release date.

 

Thanks. I was referring to CDs in general. I agree with you that the ridged cases are probably substitutes.

 

This is the impression I have been under as well. IIRC I've heard/read somewhere that it was either Oct. or Dec. 1983 when it was removed from retail stock. Either way, it wasn't in print long.

 

All the more reason why ridged cases would not be original to this CD.

 

The scarcity and general lore of the CD suggests that, but there seems to have been a lot of different pressings. Could they have really gone through so many pressings in such a short time?

 

Yes, I think they could. How many different pressings can there be?
2, 3, 4 max. ? And how do you know there are different pressings?

And I wouldn't call it scarce by any stretch. It seems everyone here has a copy.
While I've never seen another copy of my Gene Clark-Two Sides To Every Story CD.

That means there were at least a couple thousand AR's made, if not more.
It is very conceivable for a few thousand to have been made in 6 months time.

 

Right. I would think an initial run of a Beatles CD would be 5 to 10K, at least.

 

Well I can tell you I have never come across one yet in my years of collecting, and I do not own a copy yet. I am looking forward to finding one in my travels one day!