70 Mm Festival: "Around The World In 80 Days" 30 frame version comments and questions

So, what did you think, Steve?
I was a bit disappointed by the "red-shift" in the print, and there were several instances of a repetitive *popping* sound in the soundtrack.

That being said, it was still fun to be there - great movie.

Tonight, they're screening Patton - hope to see you there!



~esa

 

I caught the first showing of South Pacific - wonderful. Amazing visuals and color and the score - wow. Did anyone see the longer print they showed after? What were the deleted scenes?

 

Every planet starts gettin' kinda reminiscent of The Angry Red Planet...

A couple of parts I really love are the colorful scoring accompanying David and Shirley looking out the window of the steam train (that section's not on the soundtrack dagnabbit), the Spanish section as the balloon's landing into the tavern, the big ole brass with contrasting light touches as we pan into the Paris station and the swelling, weaving strings during that shot of the boat Cantinflas wakes on. Wonderful

 

Right, there's India Countryside, and lovely it is (love the tempo shifts in that too). Yes I meant the USA train section They even slip in that partial banjo lick iirc while showing the donkey (?)... brings a smile, and we see them smile too. It has such a joyful feel, that film, really a pleasure.

 

Yeah and what a visual treat to "ride" on that - folks often cite the film as being too long but I'm very glad it stretches to afford us wonderful moments like these. It's about the journey not just getting to a destination, which reflects the lesson in the story perfectly. Would you happen to know if those particular stretches of track may still be travelled? I think part of it is a scenic line, or was? A fine idea for a vacation methinks...

Well give me a Silvertone and call me Joe Lewis Walker, I never noticed! Cantinflas in that scene, his expressions as he takes it in, and only finally rolls up the shade... then his expression as it quickly comes right back down next morn - love it

 

Was 3 strip used in this production? Thought that has disappeared by the early 50's?

Is the original, longer prologue on the DVD? Was really looking forward to seeing this. I remember it from the original showing at the Carthay Circle run way back when first & last time I saw it. Forgot about Dietrich! Do remember the suspense & long take of Sinatra at the the piano.

 

Thanks Steve !
Dumb question....Why the faster speed? Less jiggle? Sorta like recording 15 vis 30 ips?

 

LOL Oh Man !! Thanks for being upfront.

 

I'd never thought twice about this movie before this thread... but I just happen to run into a perfect mint / like new copy on laserdisc at the used music store Friday night and I picked it up for $5.00. I'm looking forward to checking it out.

I'd assume the laserdisc pressing of this title was the best thing prior to the DVD release?

 

He was the only guy married to Liz Taylor that didn't divorce her.

 

Sorry i missed this - had to go back east for a wedding (ironically Rochester, home of Eastman Kodak).

Anyone catch any of the other flicks?

 

I was there for the screening of "Patton" on Sunday, the 7th.

I was really impressed with the color and clarity of the print. I'd never seen it on a big screen before - it was fantastic!

A great print of a great film in a great theater with great sound... what more could you want?

 

If it were only so...Was in the balcony (wonderful!) for 80 day's & the couple next to us chattered like they were at the Avalon. During the opening "short" she pulled out her cell. They were both had other agenda's, I guess. Got up and moved & they kept it up. What were they doing there??? I guess I am just not made for these video game times.
(getting my walker & going home)....

 

There were 2 lasers. First was awful. Second had deeper, better image and livelier sound. I had the second. The print is cobbled together, has lots of splices and other "artifacts" and is missing a minute or so of film (during the Cantinflas / Indian Wild West section). The picture transfer is cropped (pan n scan), exhibits minor image and color instability and other stuff associated with '80's video transfers. Sound has a startlingly obvious total dropout for several seconds, some awkward moments with the mix down and so on but is in stereo and relatively strong. In other words, what home video companies in the '80's passed off as quality. It was the best before the DVD and I suppose is interesting in that sense. For $5, hey. Have some popcorn, put your feet up for a good long spell and enjoy with a smile. But trust Steve and I, ya oughtta go with the DVD. It took years before it came out on DVD but they did a fine job of it. Understand the videos are all from the "B take" 35mm 24fps 'scope versions.

Regarding the 70mm 30fps like 80 Days & Oklahoma! I was curious if they can transfer 70mm 30ips to video now or if a reduction print is needed. Anyone know? The video/film frame rate stuff gives me a headache

 

In the case of "Oklahoma!", it was transferred twice from the 65mm negative at 30fps. The first one on LaserDisc looks pretty good. The second transfer for DVD looks soft and has sparked a ton of complaints to 20th Century Fox.

Derek

 

That was from the original negative? Oh shoot. I'd assumed it was actually a reduction or interneg etc... and a badly aging one. The flickering and other issues at times are pretty awful (esp during The Farmer and the Cowman iirc). I'd heard the deluxe films as a whole were in a bad spot, in part due to the eastman tech, and in part due to 20th-Century Fox's ages-late, too many $ short preservation "efforts." Hope better can be had... Or maybe they're better back with the 'scope vers? Seem to recall the old widescreen LD I have of that looking better. Perhaps it was an IB Technicolor print.

Since 65mm can be transfered to video at 30fps ok I'm assuming that there are no suitable sources to transfer 30fps vers of Around the World to video, and that is why the 24fps is used for the DVD. It's a shame when a film can't be shown theatrically in original shape, but when it can't even be arranged for video, hrmph. And for such a wonderful film.