Beatles Capitol Box review in Rolling Stone

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  1. MikeP5877

    MikeP5877 V/VIII/MCMLXXVII Thread Starter

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    I was just reading the review of The Beatles Capitol box in Rolling Stone magazine (from December) and ran across the following:


    “The mono mixes far better convey the bad-food English truth of Beatles music. But the stereo mixes communicate the widespread American story of the Beatles as nice cushy lads that the more outré Rolling Stones were not.”



    What in the heck does this mean? Discuss…..
     
  2. Dave D

    Dave D Done!

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    Means this guy/gal wants us to know they went to journalism school and they're darn bitchin!
     
  3. Jamie Tate

    Jamie Tate New Member

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    Someone trying to be a good writer I suspect. :rolleyes:
     
  4. vinnie

    vinnie Senior Member

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    I think the reviewer is trying to say the mono mixes are grittier and better present the 4 working class scruffs who cut their teeth in the clubs of Hamburg as opposed to the stereo mixes which seem smoother and portray the 4 cheeky mop-tops who charmed their way into America's hearts.

    Or something like that.
     
  5. Dave D

    Dave D Done!

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    "nice, cushy lads"...?????


    try working class stiffs that had to bust their butts to get to where they were! :shake:
     
  6. Jamie Tate

    Jamie Tate New Member

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    What Dave said. :D :agree:
     
  7. reechie

    reechie Senior Member

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    It means "Look at me, I'm a rock critic!" :rolleyes:
     
  8. Dave D

    Dave D Done!

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    FZ
     
  9. Zal

    Zal Recording engineer

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    Heck...all we want to know is if the sound and the music are a good marriage together, and if the discs cook and merit us to go and shell out our hard earned cash on tunes we've been buying over and over and over for over 40 years.


    Best wishes,

    Zal :help:

    Is that what the DC5 were singing about on "Over & Over" again?
     
  10. Roland Stone

    Roland Stone Offending Member

    I always thought this was a strange quote from someone whose audience consisted primarily of would-be rock journalists.
     
  11. nosticker

    nosticker Forum Guy

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    It is pretentiously contrived quotes like that Beatles one that lead me to realize that RS is not even good enough to line my bird cage.


    Dan
     
  12. tomken22

    tomken22 Senior Member

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    Hi Vinnie,

    What YOU said. And YOU should write for R.S. - At least I understood what the heck
    you were talkin' about. :p

    Tom Kennedy
     
  13. MikeM

    MikeM Senior Member

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    Not to put too fine a point on it, but despite Lennon's later ode to the working class, he was anything but.

    The Beatles' respective economic positions growing up pretty much follow the classic John, Paul, George and Ringo order -- with only George and Ringo truly qualifying for the "working class" category.

    Having said this, I fully agree with the "bust their butts" part of your statement. When you look at their day-by-day schedules from the time they first started playing regularly through August 1966, it's a wonder they had the stamina to make it through everything without collapsing in a heap.
     
  14. Dave D

    Dave D Done!

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    And you think Frank cared about offending them? :laugh:
     
  15. Peter D

    Peter D Forum Resident

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    I'm fairly well versed in rock criticism (I even speak fluent Robert Christgau-ese) but this quote did leave me scratching my head...not a great bit of writing.

    FWIW, I think Vinnie's interpretation is probably correct.




    No, no, would-be rock journalists only accounted for about a third of Zappa's audience. Another third or so consisted of people whose sense of humor hadn't evolved since fifth grade ("Hee Hee! Did ya hear the song about the peeing huskies?"). The other third I don't have a good handle on but probably includes the many Zappa fans in this forum. :)
     
  16. bluesbro

    bluesbro Forum Hall of Shame

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    It means : "stop reading Rolling Stone for your own mental health"
     
  17. daviddaniel

    daviddaniel Forum Resident

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    "Rolling Stone" I think they used to to be a British group !!

    Seriously I stopped reading the magazine in the 70s when it stopped meaning anything to me, I ' m surprised it still exists.

    Which category of readers are they catering for now?
     
  18. rene smalldridge

    rene smalldridge Senior Member

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    It's Rolling Stone. It means nothing. Or else it means turn the page and look at the next glossy decadent airbrushed lifestyle ad.
     
  19. Brian J

    Brian J Forum Resident

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    Rolling Stone and I parted company around '76-'77. I was in high school and could tell difference when someone was writing about music or creating their own piece of art. This quote about the Beatles box is oh so familiar, some 20+ years later.

    Straight from the heart and just shy of, a piece of art.

    Brian
     
  20. Hawkman

    Hawkman Supercar Gort Staff

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    They lost me back in the 80's when it seemed that every issue was about Jerry Brown and whatever politician Debra Winger was dating at the time.
     
  21. BradOlson

    BradOlson Country/Christian Music Maven

    When I subscribed to Rolling Stone for 2 years, only 1 article I remember is of an artist I do like the music of, Steve Earle. It is good waiting room and car material just for wasting time, but I don't care for the magazine overall.
     
  22. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

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    The other third thought "Cool, he's quoting from Holst's 'The Planets'", or "Dig that twelve-tone bassline (from "Centerville")!" Like it or not, the dude had musical chops to spare.
     
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