Stacker / Changer Turntables?

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  1. john.keane

    john.keane New Member Thread Starter

    Location:
    Montreal
    While researching my Technics sl-1950, I came across several sites describing it as a stacker / changer turntable (http://www.vintagetechnics.com/turntables/sl1950.htm, for one). The pictures shown displayed a turntable exactly like mine, but with an elongated center post. What I'm wondering is how does a stacker / changer turntable work? Is it any different from a regular turntable aside from the ability to stack records atop each other (which I would never actually do)? I can understand how you can stack, but are you to change the records and the sides yourself? If so, how are these different from a 'standard' turntable?

    Thanks in advance for any answers you guys can give me.
     
  2. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

    Location:
    Toronto
    My old stacker TT dropped a new record (on the old one) every time the arm mechanism finished playing and returned to the starting position. I don't remember the model any more... must be gettin old.

    I have no idea how it actually worked. But I do remember warbly music as very few of my records were actually flat!
     
  3. Damián

    Damián Forum Hall Of Fame

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    At least it waited for the arm to return to its rest.. I've heard of a couple that didn't :eek:.
     
  4. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

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    That would be trouble! :eek:
     
  5. -=Rudy=-

    -=Rudy=- ♪♫♪♫♫♪♪♫♪♪ Staff

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    Changers duplicated like rabbits back in the consoles and hi-fi systems of the 60's. :D Do a search for BSR turntables online and you'll see many examples. My grandfather had a Garrard with interchangeable spindles, in fact.
     
  6. sprocket

    sprocket Active Member

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    Does anyone remember the changer that had a mechanism that moved up from the platter to get the next record? I can picture it in my head. Can I use a brain scan to download it? My regular scanner does not seem to work for that.
     
  7. Gary

    Gary Nauga Gort! Staff

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    I've never seen such a beast.... :eek:
     
  8. Clay

    Clay Forum Resident

    Location:
    Saratoga, CA
    dual used to have a single spindle solution for changing
     
  9. Damián

    Damián Forum Hall Of Fame

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    the Thorens td224? :confused:
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  10. Paul Chang

    Paul Chang Forum Old Boy, Former Senior Member Has-Been

    Many multi-record sets have nonsequential sides pairing, to be played on stacker turntables, were pressed as late as in 1980's (e.g. the Heavy Metal soundtrack in 1981).
    2 records set: 1-4; 2-3
    3 records set: 1-6; 2-5; 3-4
    ...
    6 records set: 1-12; 2-11; 3-10; 4-9; 5-8; 6-7

    I don't know if there are nonsequential sets of 7 or more LP (33 1/3 RPM) records.
     
  11. Oatsdad

    Oatsdad Oat, Biscuits, Abbie & Mitzi: Best Dogs Ever

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    On my old stacker, there were little prongs that held the records on the pole. When one ended, the arm moved back to its starting position, the prongs retracted briefly, and the next record fell. Audiophile notions be damned - I didn't care about that when I was 12! I just loved being able to let the records play one after another...
     
  12. sprocket

    sprocket Active Member

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    No, it was made in the late 70's if I remember correctly. I'll have to Google it.
     
  13. thegage

    thegage Forum Currency Nerd

    There were a number of different schemes. IIRC this method was used by BSR among others. I had old Garrards where you stacked the LPs, then lowered this arm--rubber coated--onto the top of the stack to sabilize them.

    Supposedly, the LPs were designed to stack, with a raised lip and center label area so there would be no damage when they fell. :rolleyes: I don't have any changers lying around to test that theory.

    John K.
     
  14. poweragemk

    poweragemk Old Member

    Location:
    CH
    This is the reason, I've heard, that the Polydor CD version of Electric Ladyland has the sides out of order - the mastering engineer copied some vinyl edition designed for stackers, and sides 1 and 4 ended up on disc 1, and 2/3 on disc 2! :eek:
     
  15. Paul Chang

    Paul Chang Forum Old Boy, Former Senior Member Has-Been

    That disc was mastered for CD changers. :winkgrin:
     
  16. 22dRow

    22dRow New Member

    Location:
    USA
    My old stacker turntable scratched my LPs. It makes sense: if your changer DROPS an lp on top of another there's likely going to be some artifact from it. And if it happens over and over, your vinyl is gonna get messy.
     
  17. Kayaker

    Kayaker Senior Member

    Location:
    New Joisey Now
    Geez - that is my old turntable that I finally gave away last year to the Seminarians across the street! Is this turntable renowned to be audiophile or something? In other words have I given up something I really should have kept?
    (I always had to adjust the tracking on it and I never stacked albums, but it was a workhorse.)
     
  18. tamman

    tamman Forum Resident

    Location:
    Minnesota
    Precisely why the vinyl was slightly thicker at the outer edge and under the label. However, there were very few LPs flat enough for this to actually work. I had several changers as a kid, including an early Garrard. Many had a center spindle with blades in the center that converged to drop a single LP ono the table or atop the last record.
     
  19. johnborzatti

    johnborzatti Senior Member

    Remember the leveling arm that was standard on all Magnovox consoles!!!!I used to watch my buddies change records, even at the age of 10 I would cringe when that record dropped onto the bottom one and you could it slip and spin on unitl it came up to speed just in time for the arm to drop on it. The Magnovox models actually moved the arm upwards to check if there was another record waiting to come down. If it bumbed into one the drop mechanism was activcated and the arm would set down on the run in groove. If it did not sense one it returned to its rest and the motor shut itself off. This was fun to watch too as when the motor turned off the old flywheel idler drive wheel would disengage from the inner rim of the platter and somehow when it did the platter would actually pick up speed and depending on how good the bearing was would take a while to come to a complete stop.
     
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