Was the Oil Crisis to blame for poor LP Sales in the '70s?

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  1. mr_mjb1960

    mr_mjb1960 I'm a Tarrytowner 'Til I die! Thread Starter

    The Crude Oil needed for the Vinyl in the late '70's was running pretty low..But,I wonder if that's why Lp sales slumped considerbly duiring that time,or,was it just poor publicity?
     
  2. krlpuretone

    krlpuretone Forum Resident

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    LP sales didn't slump until the 80's when cassettes overtook in the format wars...
     
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  3. Myke

    Myke Trying Not To Spook The Horse

    Yeah, I didn't understand the thread title either...I don't remember any such slump, God, the record stores I was in from 1970-1980 were doing a booming business ?!?! :confused:
     
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  4. Schoolmaster Bones

    Schoolmaster Bones Poe's Lawyer

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    I recall it was blamed for higher prices and poor vinyl quality, but not sales...
     
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  5. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

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    The Oil Crisis coincided with Peak Vinyl, the biggest era of growth for LPs. The tread title is a non-sequitur.
     
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  6. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    The record industry, for those who were around then and remember, did indeed enter a recession in the late 70s, right around the time the disco craze died. That recession ended in late 1982, right around the time of Michael Jackson's "Thriller" was issued.
     
  7. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

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    Right. However the "Oil Crisis" of the Seventies is usually thought of as the first "crisis", the one that started around 1973. I was working in record stores by 1974, I remember the returns for thin, warped records. Didn't slow down sales. The later LP slump was brought on by genre over-exploitation leading to death by a billion returns. Say what you will about Disco, as the genre entered its death spiral—as all dance based eventually must, only to be revived at a later date—more and more people dismissed it. Punk and New Wave repelled as many as it attracted, Hip-Hop was barely getting off the ground.
     
  8. Yeah - after all, the mid-'70s kicked off the era of the megasellers, when "only" going platinum was considered a disappointment for some acts. Albums like Frampton Comes Alive, Rumors, and the SNF soundtrack sold oodles.
     
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  9. jgreen

    jgreen Well-Known Member

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    I didn't think Hip Hop had made the scene at all untill the 80s, unless you count the Lost Poets.
     
  10. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

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    Last Poets, and though they certainly count, Hip-Hop really started with DJ Kool Herc, Afrika Bambaataa and Melle Mel on the streets of the Bronx in the mid-seventies. It didn't reach "college radio" till the Eighties, so how is this day different than any other? In any case, it took a little bit of time before the movement made its mark on LP sales.
     
  11. mike65!

    mike65! Senior Member

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    C'mon, don't any of you remember the huge lines outside of record stores that ran down the block? Odd-even days? I couldn't go shopping on the day of my birthday. I had to wait until the next day. How about that no topping-off rule? I couldn't just go to buy a 45. I had to buy the whole album! :D
     
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  12. Myke

    Myke Trying Not To Spook The Horse

  13. Scott in DC

    Scott in DC Forum Resident

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    70s

    "I recall it was blamed for higher prices and poor vinyl quality, but not sales..."

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    I usually think of the 70s as the decade of megasellers like live albums (Frampton, Kiss, Bob Seger, Grand Funk, etc.) and big selling studio albums like Rumours, Boston s/t, Dream Weaver, Foreigner and others. Perhaps the 80s, Thriller excepted, might be the decade of declining sales.

    I have heard the oil crisis of the early 70s as being responsible for the decline in LP quality. In the late 70s we used to always think of UK and European "imports" as the pinnacle of LP quality compared to the noise prone, thin US LPs. Now that I am buying old vinyl from 50s and 60s I am amazed at the quality and weight of US LPs from those earlier decades.

    Scott
     
  14. Robin L

    Robin L Musical Omnivore

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    Right. I was living walking distance from the Capitol pressing plant near Eagle Rock, saw them re-grind returns. That explains a lot of why LP quality started to decline in the mid-Seventies.
     
  15. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    Right. The oil crisis didn't seem to have any immediate effect on the record business. I think the later cause was due more to the economic recession of the late 70s.

    No arguments from me on anything you posted!:thumbsup:
     
  16. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    Hip hop got it's first big hit in late 1979.
     
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  17. Raunchnroll

    Raunchnroll Senior Member

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    Geez, the 70's were the decade FOR albums sales. Oil crisis or not. And that includes the second & third tier acts.

    I just saw a PBS show on Latin music in America - talked about the history of the Fania label. Not much of a dent here, but massive sales world wide, and this was the 70's.....
     
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  18. drbryant

    drbryant Senior Member

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    I always found it curious that the slump in record sales coincided with the release of the Sgt Pepper soundtrack.
     
  19. OnTheRoad

    OnTheRoad Not of this world

    When the crisis hit vinyl quality, that's when I started seeking out and buying imports. I certainly found the quality better in general and only about 1/3 more in price !
     
  20. Ocean56

    Ocean56 Forum Resident

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    I'd say no...IIRC, record sales never slumped at all during the 70's...
     
  21. Grant

    Grant Life is a rock, but the radio rolled me!

    That would be at the peak of the disco era, late 1978.
     
  22. seed_drill

    seed_drill Senior Member

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    While the UK may have remained superior to the US, I've heard complaints about the decrease in the quality of UK pressings during this time period as well.
     
  23. Gary Freed

    Gary Freed Forum Resident

    "ditto"
     
  24. MikeP5877

    MikeP5877 Senior Member

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    I blame it on the break up of the BEATLES. :agree:
     
  25. billygtexas

    billygtexas Forum Resident

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    "Rappers Delight" by The Sugarhill Gang was the first Rap hit I ever heard. Still most Top 40 stations and some black R&B stations considered Hip-Hop novelty music until the mid-to-late 80's.

    I don't think the Oil Crisis hurt the record companies any - in fact I think it helped them. People were more inclined to save gas, stay home and listen to music. And the music industry didn't have the tough competition for home entertainment like they do now.

    Sony Betamax and VHS had been around for a few years. But decks and tapes were hard to find and very expensive.

    If you were lucky to have Cable TV back in the late seventies most likely you only had 12 channels. The first time I saw a 36 channel cable box was in the summer of 1982. (whats this thing called MTV?)

    And the video game and computer industry was still in it's infancy in the mid-late 70's too.
     
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