did anyone ever invent a laser reading LP player?

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by Bolero, Sep 12, 2003.

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  1. Bolero

    Bolero Senior Member Thread Starter

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    I seem to remember a record player design that used a laser instead of a contact stylus....so there was actually no contact/wear with the vinyl?

    or am I imagining things?

    thx!
     
  2. Jamie Tate

    Jamie Tate New Member

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  3. Roland Stone

    Roland Stone Offending Member

    There's a full-page ad in STEREOPHILE.
     
  4. Cliff

    Cliff Magic Carpet Man

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    I saw that a while back, but I was too afraid to post here about it. I didn't know if it was legit, or a joke :)
     
  5. Bolero

    Bolero Senior Member Thread Starter

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    cool...I wonder if they'll come out with a "discman" version too?

    I can see the joggers carrying them now....as big as an album sleeve :laugh:


    I'm surprised more designers haven't looked into the laser thing....but could you keep it analog?
     
  6. fjhuerta

    fjhuerta New Member

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    We talked about this a month ago... I think, from listening to the CD offered on that page, we all thought the player sounded somewhat weird (I owned the CD, yet can't find it anywhere now!).
     
  7. Jamie Tate

    Jamie Tate New Member

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    I have it too. I'm not sure if it was the TT that sounded weird or the duplicated CD. I have a feeling the demo CD wasn't recorded very well. No matter, it's a bad demo CD. I still feel like I have no idea what the thing sounds like.
     
  8. Graham Start

    Graham Start Forum Resident

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    Of course... just because there's a laser involved, doesn't mean that it's digital.

    Laserdiscs have analog video after all... and older ones have analog audio too.
     
  9. stereoptic

    stereoptic Anaglyphic GORT Staff

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  10. Bolero

    Bolero Senior Member Thread Starter

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    thx stereoptic....that virtual needle article was pretty interesting, the guy used a scanner & wrote software to decode the image!!

    :righton:

    interesting stuff.

    I'm sure someday somebody will come up with something....I would but I know nuthin' about lasers nor designing stuff!! :laugh:
     
  11. nin

    nin Forum Resident

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    ELP have new models out with remote control and better sound. I know that we will see a review soon in our favorite hifi magazine ;)
     
  12. RetroSmith

    RetroSmith Forum Hall Of Fame<br>(Formerly Mikey5967)

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    nin, which mag is that?
     
  13. Tony Plachy

    Tony Plachy Senior Member

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    Mikey Fremer at Stereophile says he has been trying for a year to get ELP to give him a review sample so far they haven't signed up. I got the literature and the CD a couple of months ago, the other day I got a letter offering me a 10% discount ($9000 instead of $10,000). These guys have no idea how to market. Only the very wealthy are going to drop that kind of money based on a CD when there are no dealers or reviews.
     
  14. RetroSmith

    RetroSmith Forum Hall Of Fame<br>(Formerly Mikey5967)

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  15. nin

    nin Forum Resident

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    Yes, it's Stereophile. I HOPE it's mikey that is doing the review and that the review will be a big review. According to ELP the review will be in December issue.
    IF it gets a great review, I maybe will buy one, maybe.
     
  16. John Carsell

    John Carsell Forum Resident

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    From what I understand these players cannot play LP's that are pressed on transparent colored vinyl.
     
  17. RetroSmith

    RetroSmith Forum Hall Of Fame<br>(Formerly Mikey5967)

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    Heard that also.........
     
  18. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

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    Just because it's always nice to have a visual
     
  19. Sckott

    Sckott Hand Tighten Only.

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    Have you guys heard that CDR demo they send? Not exactly brilliant. I thought it sounded terrible, and although the records they used to demo it were revealing, it also showed the listener it's limitations.

    Listen to St. John's from Satchmo does King Oliver.. Pretty sure that's the track. Some very gentle sounds are completely lost.

    Even if I had the bread, I wouldn't bother.... :(
     
  20. hot_wax_man

    hot_wax_man New Member

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    Well Remember that CD sounded pretty bad until about 5 years ago. Give it time. I think it is very interesting technology. I hope they sell enough of them to keep going.

    I remember the first Plasma TV I seen. It had a 40 inch display and had a 50lb suitcase full of additional electronics, and did not really look that good. (solarization) It could not resolve fine detail in the gray scale. and it COST $40K. Now you can get a better looking larger set for under 3000.00 and it has only taken 7 years.
     
  21. RetroSmith

    RetroSmith Forum Hall Of Fame<br>(Formerly Mikey5967)

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    If a major manufacturer got behind this product they would correct the problems. But I cant see that happening because it wiuldnt be a mass market product.......most people dont play records.

    You would think tho, that every radio station, Tv station, record company, recording studio and at leat a million people across the country would buy this if it were 1,000 instead of10,000.

    I would!!
     
  22. soundboy

    soundboy Senior Member

    I believe the laser turntable has been around for at least 10 years or so; it's really nothing new. It was always marketed to institutions (like libraries) and individuals with vast vinyl collections.
     
  23. Metralla

    Metralla Joined Jan 13, 2002

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    "Marketed" is the operative word. "Sold?" - I don't think so.

    Regards,
    Geoff
     
  24. soundboy

    soundboy Senior Member

    Metralla,

    You're right, the laser turntable never ever sold in even relatively modest numbers. Introduced as CD was taking over the entire market, I guess it sold enough that its manufacturer continued production til this date.
     
  25. Joel Cairo

    Joel Cairo Video Gort / Paiute Warrior Staff

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    Actually, the product was in the final stages of development in 1988/89, when it was going to be produced under the company name "Finial Technology". I don't believe they ever made it to market, and the whole idea then languished because of a perceived lack of industrial and consumer interest.

    The Japanese company that now owns it purchased Finial's technology and patents a few years back, in a determined attempt to get the product out. To date, they've sold just over 1,000 players, which for them was the break-even point.

    I'm still hoping there's a future to this idea, but the proof is in the pudding, I guess...

    According to their website, they'll be at CES in January... hope some of you guys bring along some of your vinyl, to finally give this thing a decent audition!! :D

    -Kevin
     
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