It's Official! The Beatles Remasters Thread (Part 15)

Carry on the discussion from here:

http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/showthread.php?t=191692

 

I had a question about the cuales fm clips (which are no longer there). The ones on Amazon at the moment (after the podcast with Rouse) sound pretty bad, maybe 64kb/s, but the cuales ones sounded half-decent - what bit rate were they?

 

mp3 320kbps

 

Wow! 15! I would guess this will be the last thread before the big day!

 

Thanks for those waveforms, they look pretty good. Certainly no great loss of dynamics on these

 

Could you please tell me which software was used to get those waveforms?

 

I bet we hit 20 by the stroke of midnight on 9/9.

 

Listening now. Sounds like the '86 mix to me. Vocals panned in slightly, a bit more reverb. For Drive My Car anyway.

 

I grabbed the mp3 clips from Firefox's cache, opened them in Audacity and combined them into one file.

Higher resolution image for those that want to see it:

Please Please Me - I Saw Her Standing There, Misery, Boys, Please Please Me, Love Me Do
Beatles For Sale - No Reply, Baby's in Black, Rock 'n' Roll Music, I'll Follow the Sun, Eight Days a Week
Abbey Road - Come Together, Oh! Darling, I Want You (She's So Heavy), Here Comes the Sun, Because

No, it was 24 bit/96 kHz FLAC.

 

i protest i didn't write this subatomic:

Quote:
Originally Posted by smorrissey
I don't understand. Why wouldn't that "something" transfer to CD when you are talking about how good your LP dub is? That transferred to CD did it not?


Thanks for the info.

rock and roll music is louder.

 

Sorry, fixed.

 

Thanks man.

Subatomic do you know this tool?

http://www.dynamicrange.de/en/version-13-online-2-new-features-tt-dr-offline-meter

That tool is a good way to measure the quality of a CD, or is better the waveform using audacity?

 

I've never seen that tool before, but I'm going to check it out. Thanks!

I use Audacity for simple wave editing, like combining those Beatles clips into one file or creating mp3 ringtones for me and my friends, moreso than judging the quality of a CD. I do enjoy checking out the waveform for my favorite albums/songs out of sheer curiosity, but I'm no expert.

 

Man its not available for download for free i you can't find it let me know. Latest version is 1.4 i guess.

I don't get this:


There's nothing inherently wrong with limiting or making a CD loud enough to hear. As someone with a lot more knowledge than me said the other day, if studio recordings weren't limited at all, many of them would be too quiet to hear. You have to reign in the transient peaks a little.

Yes, it seems that the remastering team has opted to limit the stereo releases purely to compete with current music trends, but if the cuales.fm clips are to be believed (and I do believe them), they have not brickwalled

Why are we talking about limiting? it shouldn't be the other way unlimiting? = more louder?

 

I'm no expert, so defer to someone with more knowledge then me. But as I understand it, limiting, in the context of mastering, means that when the peaks of a recording hit a predetermined threshold, they are not allowed to exceed it. They are limited at that value, so to speak. This is done so that you can increase the volume of the recording without those peaks causing distortion or audible clipping. In a sense, limiting also reduces the dynamic range of a recording, although the concept of reducing dynamic range more appropriately applies to compression.

 

Dunno. Part 14 opened on the 20th and closed on the 25th.

 

Betcha we hit 20 by 9-9-09!

 

I have a tube cut of 'Beatles For Sale' and also a rather stunning German 'Pepper' and
I seriously doubt that these new cds will beat either of those pressings simply because
the cd sampling rate is too low.

However, if at some point EMI decides to release these same remasters at
96khz/24bit resolution either on SACD/BluRay or DVD-A then the lps won't stand a chance.

It seems that the limiting and eq (as well as noise removal) has been fantastically
subtle and these remastered discs will satisfy 99% of the people who hear them.

 

I bet for part 17 on 09/09

 

I thought George Martin was brought into the project late in the day in the 80s, and thus his work was pretty rushed. If so, surely he didn't remix Help! and Rubber Soul until 1987.

 

Those waveforms actually look very good, much better than I thought

 

They look a lot better than most non-audiophile masters released these days.

 

Would it not be extraordinarily easy to release a high resolution version of these new masters? I'm not familiar with the typical time between mastering and packaging/release, but wouldn't it be possible to see a Holiday release of 24/96? Maybe... Halloween?

 

It's possible, but it'll never happen that soon. Apple seems to move at a turtle's pace.

 

We in the UK don't really see Halloween as an Holiday, and don't celebrate it like you Guys do, maybe for a Christmas release that would be the next big holiday!