Why I'm Not Going With Blu-ray

Discussion in 'Audio Hardware' started by KatCassidy, Jun 15, 2009.

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  1. KatCassidy

    KatCassidy Mixed bag Thread Starter

    I'm not going to get blu-ray anything. I mean, why bother? It hadn't even been out five years before they were working on a replacement. In fact, between announcing the development of BluRay and the actual release of BluRay products was when they started developing it's replacement: The holographic disc.

    Now I'm not against progress in technology. I like my fast computer thank you. But it is insane to announce a product and then start development on it's proposed successor before the current product isn't even finished being developed! That's just insane!

    So I'm just gonna skip right over BluRay and wait for the holographic discs. Why not? If all goes well, they'll have 4k-HD video and 48/384 audio, possibly even 96/768 audio! Oh, and don't forget the 10.2 surround sound! 2 subwoofers should really increase the experience of being enveloped in sound!

    Fingers crossed it will have a finalized specification when it comes out so we don't have to worry about whether or not our players are Holograph 2.3b compatible or not.

    :wave:
     
  2. reechie

    reechie Senior Member

    Location:
    Baltimore
    Maybe when the porn industry gets on board... :D
     
  3. Evan L

    Evan L Beatologist

    Location:
    Vermont
    I'm with you.....DVD is just fine for me.

    Evan
     
  4. John B Good

    John B Good Forum Hall Of Fame

    Location:
    NS, Canada
    Yeah! I've drawn a line too!

    DVDs are good enuff for me, and Bobby McGee! :)
     
  5. audiofiles

    audiofiles New Member

    I am in no hurry to go BluRay either
     
  6. Metralla

    Metralla Joined Jan 13, 2002

    Location:
    San Jose, CA
    I've never owned a DVD player. In fact, I've never owned a video recorder either. ;)

    So I'm going to get a BluRay
     
  7. monewe

    monewe Forum Resident

    Location:
    SCOTLAND
    Same boat for me. Not going to buy Blu ray quite happy with DVD at the moment.
     
  8. alexpop

    alexpop Power pop + other bad habits....

    Blue Ray's finest moment ( move over John Holmes) :D
     
  9. I was planning on skipping Blu Ray as well but I've jumped on board as there's been some really impressive titles and the cost of the discs themselves - if you look for sales/hunt around - is relatively cheap (especially in comparison to the costs of DVDs in their first few years).

    For example, I've been able to get nine James Bond Blu Ray titles new for $10 each; being a big Bond fan, these are definitely worth it as the picture is, IMO, the best these films have ever looked.

    But I can appreaciate anyone sitting this format out.
     
  10. b3n

    b3n Forum Resident

    Location:
    America
    I tend to avoid releases I just want to watch once or twice, however the allure of quality lossless audio for some of my favorites is too much to resist.
     
  11. MerlinMacuser

    MerlinMacuser New Member In Memoriam

    I use my Blue Ray player for cd playback as well as for BD movies. I find the cd part of the player to be superior to my previous cd player or even my dvd/cd/sacd player.
     
  12. johnny33

    johnny33 New Member

    Location:
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    Im not sure what benefit BR would have for me. I am guessing that most of the movies that shine with this format are more modern day action flicks... Batman... etc. And though I like an action flick from time to time to waste a few brain cells I am more into older movies and foreign films.

    I mean how much better can, for eg, Gone With the Wind be on BR?

    I see movies, esp in America, more and more as a feast for the eyes and not the brain. Its more about the "Oh coool!" factor than it is about much quality plot.
     
  13. Roscoe

    Roscoe Active Member

    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    While I have no plans to replace the majority of my existing DVD collection with Blu-Ray, I can say that I am happy to have upgraded my TV and player to enable Blu-Ray.

    Blu-Ray can look absolutely stunning, and is the closest thing yet to a movie theater experience in the home, provided that you have a display that is of appropriate size and quality to leverage the benefits of Blu-Ray.

    Now I simply get the Blu-Ray from Netflix rather than the standard DVD, when available.

    While I don't plan on a complete back-collection replacement, I have bought the Blu-Ray versions for some of the warhorses in my collection (those all-time faves that warrant repeat viewings).

    Whether Blu-Ray is worth the additional investment is everyone's personal choice, but if you're a big home theater buff it's probably worth it.
     
  14. RetroSmith

    RetroSmith Forum Hall Of Fame<br>(Formerly Mikey5967)

    Location:
    East Coast
    While 4K projectors will be available within the next few years for independant movie makers who own the REDD camera to play back their 4K digital movies, commercially available 4K disks wont be released for about 7-8 years in the future, if that.

    Blu-Ray tech has been a slow adopton, much slower than DVD was, so they need more time to recoup the development and remastering costs. I think we are looking at 2020 really, before 4K is a household word. Thats a long time to wait!!!
     
  15. Claude

    Claude Senior Member

    Location:
    Luxembourg
    I am going to skip right over electric cars and wait for the nuclear-powered ones.
     
  16. mj_patrick

    mj_patrick Senior Member

    Location:
    Elkhart, IN, USA
    My general attitude is to only get Blu-Ray versions of films I truly love and watch repeatedly and that have gotten no less than great technical reviews. I am only buying the absolute "best of the best" and after all the disappointments with DVD (early releases with horrible artifacting, countless "double/triple dipping" and special edition releases that sometimes offer nothing more).

    For example the James Bond movies alone have been repackaged and remastered/re-released twice on DVD now, the last time being "frame by frame digital restoration", and after seeing those results there's no way I'm going to replace the whole DVD series again. I've been suckered long enough.

    When Blu Ray is done right and viewed on the right system there's no comparison really, it is very impressive. That said, I think a properly done DVD can look very impressive on a player with good up scaling capabilities on an HDTV, and can fool many people into thinking they are watching hi-def.
     
  17. jjhunsecker

    jjhunsecker Senior Member

    Location:
    New York city
    Actually, the very best Blu-rays I've seen are "The Searchers", "2001", and "The Godfather Parts 1 and 2". Basically, we're talking about films over 50, 40, and 30 years old, respectively. So I wouldn't be surprised if something like "GWTW" was leaps ahead of the (already very good) DVD
     
  18. Mal

    Mal Phorum Physicist

    I picked up a US and UK BDP-S1(E) just as they were about to disappear completely very cheaply and have been very impressed with not only the picture but the sound.

    I must admit, I hadn't really looked into the format details too much and was expecting the hi-res picture to be good as I'd seen it in-store, as well as at home on the BBC-HD channel. What I hadn't been exposed to was the uncompressed sound - at last, decent sound from a video format :goodie:

    Seriously, take a film like 2001: A Space Odyssey, not only is it a pleasure to watch it in glorious hi-def but the reproduction of the original analoue soundtrack is simply stunning. Especially since all we've had are Dolby Digital and DTS to be going along with. Obviously, ocassionally you get PCM on a DVD but that tends to be for the music ones, not the movies.

    Another thing I hadn't really thought about was the end of the PAL/NTSC conflict which has been a royal pain in the butt for me over the years. I've had to buy US or Japan (NTSC) DVDs of my favourite films, particularly those with music content since UK DVDs of film based content run a semitone fast (PAL). Finally, with Blu-Ray that is a thing of the past - everything runs at the same speed :)

    The Band's The Last Waltz is absolutely amazing on Blu-Ray - and I just use my TV's own speakers. That's how big the difference is between compressed and uncompressed audio going from DVD to Blu-Ray. You can hear it that the music sounds real for once :thumbsup:

    The discs are a but too pricey, that's my only complaint. Also, where are the classics? Lawrence Of Arabia, Ben-Hur etc..?

    Otherwise, I've been wholly impressed with the format, the audio being the biggest unexpected bonus. Oh, and did I mention the audio?......

    :)
     
  19. Mal

    Mal Phorum Physicist

    Oh, and the upscaling on the BDP-S1 has made my large DVD collection look much better too - I can't see a downside to getting a decent Blu-Ray player :shrug:
     
  20. Tjazz

    Tjazz Breakfast at (a record store)

    Location:
    USA
    Doesn't your computer have a DVD player?
     
  21. b3n

    b3n Forum Resident

    Location:
    America
    The Pixar / Disney Pixar films on Bluray are _amazing_. Many of the concerts on Blu are great as well! Queen: Rock Montreal & Live Aid has amazing audio, very lush and vibrant audio - something I demo for people that haven't seen bluray before - it's an easy win :)
     
  22. Leee242

    Leee242 Forum Resident

    I resisted for a while then relented and decided to get a Playstation 3. Kill two birds with one stone.
    While I'm not happy about buying titles I already have on standard DVD, the picture quality difference IS apparent.
    The semi-regular firmware upgrades are annoying for some reason, though.
     
  23. biggerdog

    biggerdog Senior Member

    Location:
    MA
    Holographic data storage has been "right around the corner" for a long, long time, promising huge, cheap data storage. I gave up expecting anything real several major announcements ago.

    Bluray looks great. If and when holographic storage brings us 4K quality images, you'll need a new display anyway, which will dwarf the cost of the player.
     
  24. BigE

    BigE Forum Resident

    Will they call it 1080pp then?

    Eric
     
  25. thegage

    thegage Forum Currency Nerd

    Maybe I missed the official announcement that the holographic disc has been designated as Blu-Ray's replacement?

    It is my understanding that widespread holographic disc implementation is years away, and then most likely only in areas where extremely high data storage is critical. Even then the cost will be way beyond what any normal consumer would pay. Figure another few years until it trickles down into consumer video (if ever) and that's a long wait for Blu-Ray's "replacement". I'd say Blu-Ray is good for at least another 5 to 7 years, or maybe 10.

    If you love movies that's a long time to deny yourself the real benefits of Blu-Ray. For myself it is not just about "hi-def" razor shapr images. The increased clarity is great, but what I really like about the format is the hugely improved color gamut and "heft" (for lack of a better word), along with what the image clarity brings--a more realistic sense of depth to the image--and of course the often greatly improved sonics. What all this means is a more immersive film experience. Add to this the fact that it makes DVDs you already own look better, and I don't understand why people would not adopt the format. (OK, cost can be a factor, but arguing that Blu-Ray "isn't worth it" on technical grounds is a pretty weak position.)

    And yes, many of the revelations in Blu-Ray relate to older movies, too, not just current action flicks.

    John K.
     
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