Neil Young announces upcoming 10 disc Archives release on Blu-ray Nov. 3, 2008*

[DJ WILBUR]

Originally Posted by squealy

If it really is a catastrophic sales disaster, I bet you CD editions will follow.

well this will depend on the Java underwriting of it. Surely they are involved to subsidize this so WB and Neil make a certain profit on this material.

[Pawnmower]

i predict this will tank terribly. as much as one can respect neil certainly thinking big and "outside the box," i think his plans are too grand for this. especially when he deemed certain recordings TOO GOOD for the archives. so what are we really getting here that is worth such effort? i'm really not as bumbed about not getting the archives as i thought i would be.

[TWZ]

Originally Posted by rockclassics

No sale here either. I am not interested in having to watch and listen.

I agree. I have totaly lost interest in the archives the last year of so. And this
Blu-Ray thing doesn't do it for me. No sale. Regular CDs and a nice booklet would be good enough for me.
I want the music. Not some fancy java interactive NY archive computer game.

[Xico]

Originally Posted by JamieC

Neil Young has flipped me the finger. I am ticked off(insert much stronger cursing), and feel Young does not want me as a fan or a customer.
So be it.
Ta Neil, hope you have to EAT those Blu Ray discs.

Just to confirm: didn't the news say Blu Ray AND DVD???

[DJ WILBUR]

Originally Posted by Xico

Just to confirm: didn't the news say Blu Ray AND DVD???

i did not hear DVD myself.

[AKA-Chuck G]

Yes it did, plus I can rent Blue-Ray discs from netflix and maybe get what I need/want without buying the whole set.

[Jay F]

Originally Posted by thenexte

I actually don't think so, perhaps this is a new way of creating high-quality multimedia content that potentially involves the listener on many more levels rather than just dumping all the music onto CD's and making this only a linear experience. This could actually be an exciting proposition for the industry.

I don't want to have to watch TV in order to listen to music.

[windfall]

Originally Posted by DJ WILBUR

i did not hear DVD myself.

I watched the webcast and there was no talk of DVD although Neil has mentioned "Blu-Ray and DVD - no CD" in the past. But I really don't know if *he* knows what is going on.

Hey, Neil - DVD-audio, DVD-audio, DVD-audio! It's the future! [Yeah, great, let's do it]. Hey, Neil, Blu-ray, blu-ray, Java, java, java! And all the kids have PS3s!! DVD-audio is soooooo last decade. [Yeah, sure, let's do it]. etc. etc.

The sooner we all realise that new formats tumbling over each other is just a sign of either a) a dying market chasing its tail or b) a symptom of capitalism in its death throes or c) both the above, the better.

Stevie

[Matt Wittman]

Bootleggers are doing a happy jig right now.
Call me old fashioned, but I would like the music available on CDs.

[Bill Sherbon]

Count me in for this, I bet it will sound great. I've just recently installed an inexpensive bluray rom drive in my living room htpc so I'm really looking forward to this hi def audio and video.

For those wondering about the downloads, bluray (profile 2 I think) includes capability of connecting to your internet/home network, and with the player's persistent storage the downloaded content doesn't need to be part of the disc itself.

[johnny 99]

Originally Posted by TWZ

I agree. I have totaly lost interest in the archives the last year of so. And this
Blu-Ray thing doesn't do it for me. No sale. Regular CDs and a nice booklet would be good enough for me.
I want the music. Not some fancy java interactive NY archive computer game.

Sorry Neil...give me CD's and a booklet and I would have been in!

No sale here.

[Pawnmower]

Originally Posted by Xico

Just to confirm: didn't the news say Blu Ray AND DVD???

DVD isn't much better.. it just wouldn't require purchasing a new player for them. neil seems to think blu-ray technology makes the initial dream possible. DVD wouldn't.

[moople72]

There's plenty of time (with a release date no more specific than "the fall") for Neil and the label to reconsider not putting this stuff out on CD. When did we first hear about this===15 years ago?

Well---I bought a new TV and VCR for the Beatles Anthology----but this is a little different. I was planning to wait on BLURAY for a few more years. The cheapest option may be installing a BLU RAY-compatible drive in my computer and burning the music content on to cd........Neil is worth the effort---esp anything from 60s/70s.

[johnny 99]

The older we get, the weaker our eyes get. Is it just me or are "regular" DVD's good enough for some of you to enjoy as they are now quality-wise?
The last thing I want to do is spend alot of time in front of the TV as it is.
Who really cares about Blu-Ray and how long before something else renders it obsolete??
What next/gimme a break.

[Claude]

Originally Posted by Pawnmower

Are you sure? It seemed they had a much bigger catalog then HD.

Blu-ray only = no DVD version

[Matt Wittman]

Originally Posted by johnny 99

The last thing I want to do is spend alot of time in front of the TV as it is.
Who really cares about Blu-Ray and how long before something else renders it obsolete??
What next/gimme a break.

Exactly. Before long, it will be popular not to have discs at all. No physical format...

[Peter Harrar]

Based on watching his presentation, it appears his bottom line is 24/192 audio and being able to jump around the video while the 24/192 audio streams. DVD-A provides the former, but only Blu-ray appears to provide the latter. DVD-V provides neither, with a 24/96 upper limit on audio. So it's hard to guess what format other than Blu-ray this will be released in. While DVD-V seems to fall short on both goals, Neil Young's recent deluxe releases have all featured 24/96 DVD-V audio. DVD-A would work for the audio portion goal of 24/192, but Neil hasn't released a DVD-A disc since Greendale.

Is it possible Blu-ray will be it for the Archives box sets and that lower resolution 16/44 and 24/96 archival releases will be limited to the single disc live Performance Series and Unreleased Album Series, starting with Toast?

[keef00]

If Neil wants to be so forward-thinking regarding the technology of this thing, dump it all on a Neil Young-branded external hard drive. New Yorker magazine offers their archive on a drive like that, so why not do the same with music? Then you would truly be able to download updates and incorporate them into the timeline.

I probably won't buy a blu-ray player until the normal-res DVD dies off, and by that time another format will be in place. So, no sale here.

[Pawnmower]

Originally Posted by Claude

Blu-ray only = no DVD version

That has nothing to do with what I was talking about. The fella was saying no movie has been released on Blu-ray only.

[jstraw]

Neil is nuts. If someone can't play his releases through an iPod, car stereo, computer, music server, etc...that person may well just wait for the stuff to turn up as flac or mp3 on a peer to peer site. Blu-only is a bad mistake.