Pink Floyd's A Momentary Lapse of Reason EMI vs. Columbia CDs?

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  1. kurtphyre

    kurtphyre Senior Member<br>Formerly fogged.zep Thread Starter

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    My friend has 2 copies of A Momentary Lapse of Reason. He said he would sell me one and that I could choose whichever copy I want. I know that the two copies he has are different. One is EMI and one is Columbia.

    I found these images on the net and I believe this is the back artwork for both CDs. So I'm asking...which is better?
     

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  2. dbz

    dbz Bolinhead.

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    These were digitally recorded (DDD) so I should think there will be little difference, but somone else may have a different view.
    Certainly stuff like Amused to death was the same version in the UK as the japanese 1st press.
     
  3. kurtphyre

    kurtphyre Senior Member<br>Formerly fogged.zep Thread Starter

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    So they should sound identical? Can anyone verify this?
     
  4. bhazen

    bhazen ANNOYING BEATLES FAN

    Location:
    Deepest suburbia
    Not sure about these two versions in particular, but my '87 sounds indistinguishable from my '92 remaster from the box set. Also, those sounded identical to the Japan mini-LP version I've heard.

    I'd probably go with the EMI, just to have a more unique package.:)
     
  5. LesPaul666

    LesPaul666 Mr Markie - The Rock And Roll Snarkie

    Location:
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    Chances are very good that they are digitally identical. I think the same digital master was sent everywhere for this release in 1987.
     
  6. I have the Columbia pressing and it sounds good. The EMI probably has better inserts, as CBS was kinda cheap with paper and print quality and disc certainly better looking!
     
  7. agentalbert

    agentalbert Senior Member

    Location:
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    I suppose the later remaster doesn't improve at all, does it?
     
  8. LesPaul666

    LesPaul666 Mr Markie - The Rock And Roll Snarkie

    Location:
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    It's a bit louder and fuller, but then again...;)
     
  9. SergioRZ

    SergioRZ Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Portugal
    Received the japanese 32DP Momentary Lapse Of Reason today...

    I'm a bit disapointed with the sound. It's a little thin and it might have some strange EQ in the upper frequencies...

    Is this what other people hear? :confused:

    Are there better versions of this CD?
     
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  10. Modern_Mannequin

    Modern_Mannequin Active Member

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    Does anyone know if this album was actually remastered in 1992, when it was released as part of the Shine On boxset? I've heard some people say it was, but it doesn't seem to come up in discussions of the various masters that are out there. If it was remastered in 1992, who did it?

    I have that 1992 Shine On version of this album, and it doesn't sound too great to me. Too much treble, and things sound smeared at times. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a (poor) remaster, but who knows, the original 1987 may be the same thing.
     
  11. David Bostock

    David Bostock Forum Resident

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    The remaster is a bit louder and fuller, as mentioned before. But by no means limited or brickwalled. I prefer the remaster to the original, which does sound thin...
     
  12. btomarra

    btomarra Classic Rock Audiophile

    Location:
    Little Rock, AR
    So when Capitol reisued this, it was remastered?

    Okay, did some research. The peak levels of the 2009 Capitol reissue:

    85.0 / 100 / 99.9 / 100 / 100 / 100 / 59.6 / 100 / 60.4 / 100

    At the bottom, it says "P © 1997 Pink Floyd (1978) Ltd. under exclusive license to EMI Records Ltd. Manufactured by Capitol Records, LLC ,

    So, I went back to the 1997 pressing also mastered by Doug Sax and the peak values for that are:

    72.7 / 100 / 100 / 100 / 100 / 100 / 62.7 / 100 / 55.9 / 100

    On the 2009, a few levels are silightly higher and a few slightly lower from the 1997. Just an FYI....
     
  13. kurtphyre

    kurtphyre Senior Member<br>Formerly fogged.zep Thread Starter

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    Here's a chart. I've found out I have the Columbia CK 40599 3rd and 4th pressing, 1997 Anniversary Ed., and the EMI versions. Can't decide on a favorite but need to scale down because this album isn't "that" good.
     

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  14. SamS

    SamS Forum Legend

    Location:
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    Love those charts!

    Too bad I can't determine which one corresponds to the disc I have, the Shine On box version. My disc is packed away, I only have the FLAC handy.
     
  15. boiledbeans

    boiledbeans Forum Resident

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    Well, you can always use foobar to scan for the peak values for the FLAC files.
     
  16. testikoff

    testikoff Seasoned n00b

    I happen to have 3/4 US pressing of the MLOR CD. It sounds decent, but a little quiet... (album ReplayGain shows +1.35 dB which is a tad unusual for late 80s digital rock recordings). Oh well...
     
  17. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialistâ„¢

    Location:
    B.C.
    For the better SQ I'd go with the Columbia.
     
  18. rstamberg

    rstamberg Senior Member

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    I have the original Columbia CD pressing from 1987 as well as a Japanese cardboard-sleeved version, I believe also on Columbia, from a couple of years back ... and I honestly can tell no difference between the two. I believe the title is now on EMI worldwide but am not aware of any remastering.
     
  19. PH416156

    PH416156 Alea Iacta Est

    Location:
    Europe
    Bump! and a question: was the "A momentary lapse of reason" CD ever released in the USA with red lettering on its spine (like this "Wish you were here" disc and several old Columbia\CBS titles)?

    Many thanks in advance
     

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  20. KeithH

    KeithH Success With Honor...then and now

    Location:
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    No. The original U.S. issue has the blue spines with white text.
     
  21. PH416156

    PH416156 Alea Iacta Est

    Location:
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    Thank you very much for your reply Keith, much appreciated.
    Ok, I can stop bothering amazon and ebay sellers with my "red lettering" request :laugh:
    I should have asked for help here at SH.tv before!
     
  22. KeithH

    KeithH Success With Honor...then and now

    Location:
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    No problem. The record label started to dress up their inserts by '87, especially with high-profiles artists like Pink Floyd.
     
  23. KeithH

    KeithH Success With Honor...then and now

    Location:
    Beaver Stadium
    My CK 40599 CD is the 1st/2nd press. It has "Made in USA - Digital Audio Disc Corp." stamped on the plastic ring, "DIDP-70659" in the matrix code, and "DIDP 070659" printed beneath the CD format logo. I'm going to keep my eyes peeled for a CK 40599 3rd/4th press for comparison. It's strange that this version was mastered so quiet.

    I have a U.S. remastered copy, but now I'll have to check if it's the '97 or '05 version. It's strange that Sony reissued the first mastering in '05. I'm thinking I bought the disc a number of years ago and that it's the '97. Here's hoping that is the case and that I don't have another copy with the original mastering.
     
  24. PH416156

    PH416156 Alea Iacta Est

    Location:
    Europe
    If you have the "Shine On" box set, then you have this mastering already.
     
  25. Myke

    Myke Trying Not To Spook The Horse

    Mine was made in Italy...
     
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