Cool. Got an extra one for sale? Here's the clip of my needledrop: http://queencdmastering.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/08+Track+08-Behind+Blue+Eyes+1.mp3 It comes from a 200 gram LP. Levels don't match your samples unfortunately. I'll work on amplifing it.
I'm not sure how these scans are going to come across, but we'll see... japan_original.jpg 1) above MCAD-37217 Inner ring reads "MCAD-37217 1A1 6X" The malformed "L" in Baba O'Riley is present on both of my copies of this. crc.jpg 1a) above MCAD-37217/DIDY 001530 Inner ring reads "ARC-4013 5 MCD 37217-2 SRC+02 *M2 S3" (the bold part is in a different font) mca_alternate.jpg 3) above MCAD-37217 Inner ring reads "MCAD-37217 3S MFD BY JVC" bmg.jpg 1b) above MCAD-37217/170350D Inner ring reads "D1700350 4/95 2DC8" canadian_cinram.jpg 1c) above MCABD-37217 (previously released as MCAMD 37217) Inner ring reads "#980614G MCABD-37217 L381 MFG BY CINRAM" Note I'm aware of other variations - 3) made in Japan in particular. I just don't have them.
OK, here's the same clip, amplified to the level of Luke's samples: http://queencdmastering.wikispaces.com/space/showimage/AmplifiedNDBBE.wav It says WAV, but the source is the same MP3 as above. The program I used to amplify it won't export as a MP3 without another program. For easy reference, here's the link to Luke's samples of the same material. http://lukpac.org/mp3/samples/bbe_comparison.mp3 The CD samples sure sound clearer, but I really like the warmth of the needledrop. They should sell needledrops in the stores IMO. Here's the 411 on the source for that Needledrop: http://www.classicrecords.com/item.cfm?item=2408 102-200G
I have six CDs of Who's Next and like the Japanese Polydor P33P-25009 pressing that clocks in at 43:25 best.
I have (thanks to Mike Hooker) a 43:25 MCA made in USA with the following in the inner ring: MCAD3/217 3/88 1DA1 But no others to compare.
Has anyone heard and compared the new SHM version released in Japan? http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/detailview.html?KEY=UICY-90761 Thanks in advance, JD
This is an informative thread. Here's mine, which is very similar in appearance to Luke's "1b", above, except it's for "RCA Direct marketing" instead of BMG. Running time is 43:19. It has the "continuous hiss" for each LP side. Matrix reads "D1-70350 2B2 D81" (in ugly dot matrix type).
Indeed. I just listened to mine today. Am I right that they should sell needledrops in stores or at least online?
I haven't heard it, but that certainly looks like the 1995 version to me. Where are you getting that time from? EAC reports 43:24.13 for my BMG copy.
That time came out of iTunes. (I'm a Mac guy and don't have EAC.) But I just checked it in a CD player and that shows 43:25.
No, not yet. But my point is, if you have the rights to release a CD commercially, why would you master from an LP? Chances are you have access to whatever tape was used to make that LP in the first place. Mastering a CD to match the sound of a good sounding LP? Yeah, great idea. Master a CD *from* a good sounding LP? Seems kind of strange to me...
Interesting. I popped my copy into iTunes and it comes up as 43:20. I wonder what accounts for such a large difference. My ancient copy of Astarte CD-Copy (using the same drive) shows it as 43:26:13, apparently taking into account the pre-gap, which EAC must ignore.
OK, I see what you mean. Then I am now puzzled as to why Classic Reocords doesn't also release CDs. BTW, my link is like yours, just click and listen.
Probably because they don't have the rights to. This is a big assumption on my part, but I would assume that it is easier and/or cheaper to license something for audiophile LP than it is for audiophile CD. I'll give it a shot later. It will be interesting to see what it sounds like compared to the Decca vinyl.
I've heard you mention this before. On a sample-by-sample basis, does it cancel out at all? For example, does a string of five or six samples cancel out? I ask because I recall (for example) a Frank Zappa disc from BMG that was digitally identical to the stock pressing, but that "lost" samples every second or so...so if you attempted to line them up in Audition, they drifted ever so slowly out of sync.
