Pink Floyd - Meddle shootout

Discussion in 'Music Corner' started by Dr. Merkwürdigli, Jan 7, 2007.

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  1. Dr. Merkwürdigli

    Dr. Merkwürdigli Active Member Thread Starter

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  2. Andreas

    Andreas Senior Member

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    I could not hear any difference.
     
  3. Starwanderer

    Starwanderer Senior Member

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  4. Dr. Merkwürdigli

    Dr. Merkwürdigli Active Member Thread Starter

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    I agree that they sound very much the same, but they are different (more so than MFSL UD/UD II). IMO one of the "Seamus" samples sounds more natural than the other. This is how they look without normalizing.
     

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  5. Dr. Merkwürdigli

    Dr. Merkwürdigli Active Member Thread Starter

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    And this is how the normalized (100%) samples looks.
     

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  6. GP

    GP Senior Member

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    It's easier to tell the differences with "Fearless", as I'm listening on headphones, but there is a slight unnatural sharpness in the high end on one of each track, and I prefer the slightly warmer sample...especially after extended listening at a moderate volume. The differences are more subtle than comparisons we usually make here, but they are there. It would be interesting to see other comments on it.:)
     
  7. Dr. Merkwürdigli

    Dr. Merkwürdigli Active Member Thread Starter

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    It would be interesting to know which samples you find have a slightly warmer sound?
     
  8. Dr. Merkwürdigli

    Dr. Merkwürdigli Active Member Thread Starter

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    The MFSL is a forum favorite. Can someone pick the 2 samples from the MFSL?
     
  9. I can, which tracks?
     
  10. Dr. Merkwürdigli

    Dr. Merkwürdigli Active Member Thread Starter

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    Thank you very much, but what I ment is that the MFSL samples are already included in the first post.

    I find it very interesting that it is so hard telling the MFSL samples apart from the others. This tells me that there is at least one very strong competitor to the MFSL which can be bought quite "cheap".

    I actually prefer this "regular" edition to the MFSL.

    It would be great if more people post what they think.
     
  11. JayB

    JayB Senior Member

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  12. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    I'm just not willing to attempt to shoot out an album through a crappy computer sound system as opposed to my real system. No real life results can be guaranteed with this method never mind adding normalization into the factor. However, if you're ever planning to come to Vancouver feel free to PM me for a real life get together and I'll glady take up your challenge when real CD albums are being used.
     
  13. jon9091

    jon9091 Master Of Reality

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    I think Fearless (sample#3) is the MFSL. I think sample#4 has a bit more of a bass cloud, perhaps making it sound slightly "warmer". They both sound nice, actually. I haven't really compared the other samples yet. I rarely listen to Seamus.
     
  14. GP

    GP Senior Member

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    Just for a lark, why not check it out, Dave? I know you use EAC (or did), so just burn the tracks to disc and take it over to your "real" system, no trip to Vancouver needed.:)

    You already know what the MFSL sounds like, so it should be easy for you to pick this one apart. I'd be interested myself, to see what your preferences are.:righton:
     
  15. jblock

    jblock Senior Member

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    I can't hear much of a difference, at least not enough to make me buy another version other than the last remaster.
     
  16. Dr. Merkwürdigli

    Dr. Merkwürdigli Active Member Thread Starter

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    Ok. Thank you for your view.
     
  17. Andreas

    Andreas Senior Member

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    You can listen to these samples on your real system, e.g. by burning them to CDR.
     
  18. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Sorry Andres, not the same as shooting out the real CD's.
     
  19. Dave

    Dave Esoteric Audio Research Specialist™

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    Even easier for me... what pressing do you want to know about about? :D
     
  20. Dr. Merkwürdigli

    Dr. Merkwürdigli Active Member Thread Starter

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    It's OK.

    The Fearless samples are not normalized.
     
  21. Hmmm ...

    "03 Pink Floyd - Fearless": MFSL?

    Pink Floyd-Meddle-(03)Fearless: Harvest disc?

    Seamus 1: MFSL ?

    Seamus 2: Harvest disc?

    I've got a UK Swindon Harvest disc, and the MFSL. They are extremely close. I could have easily cheated in identifying which is the MFSL, but thought I take the listening test instead :)

    Interested in finding out what the non-MFSL is...
     
  22. Dr. Merkwürdigli

    Dr. Merkwürdigli Active Member Thread Starter

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    The non MFSL disc is the original EMI Swindon. You got the cds right! When it comes to the samples you got it half right:) .
     
  23. GP

    GP Senior Member

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    The second "Seamus" sample was the MFSL CD, right? Was that the one that was also normalized? I think that threw me off also, but again, I think I heard that same sharpness in the high end. I wouldn't have thought to compare "Seamus" though. :) Usually my comparisons are with tracks like "Echoes", "San Tropez", or "Fearless", but I guess that's too predictable.

    The EMI Swindon is the best mastering of this album, hands down. I don't listen to the MFSL UD anymore, unless I'm comparing it to the Swindon.
     
  24. Dr. Merkwürdigli

    Dr. Merkwürdigli Active Member Thread Starter

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    The second "Seamus" is the MFSL CD. This was not normalized. Seamus from the EMI Swindon was normalized from original max peak 43,8% to max peak 100%. I agree about the sharpness (very little) in the high end on the MFSL. The EMI Swindon sounds slightly warmer/softer.

    I have also compared the EMi Swindon to my original UK Garrod & Lofthouse Ltd. pressed green Harvest label LP. On my system they basically sounds the same. The gain on the EMI Swindon stays very close to the gain on the LP. The Seamus track on the MFSL is far too "load" "ruining" the original flow of the LP. There is no doubt they both are very good sounding cds, but I pick the EMi Swindon because of the ever so slightly warmer sound and that it stays truer to the original "between tracks" volume settings.
     
  25. GP

    GP Senior Member

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    Thanks for the clarification...I could've checked, but got lazy.:p


    The one just mentioned, for starters.:)
     
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