When Is NEIL YOUNG going to remaster the rest of his albums. I am sick of waiting....

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  1. RustNeverSleeps

    RustNeverSleeps New Member Thread Starter

    Anybody agree with me?
     
  2. vince

    vince Stan Ricker's son-in-law

    I know I could use a re-mastered copy of "Trans"...... Sorry, hard-cores.
     
  3. TommyTunes

    TommyTunes Senior Member

    Most of Neil's CD's are pretty good sounding. Since Neil is anti-CD to begin with I doubt there will be any reissues.
     
  4. Another Side

    Another Side Senior Member

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    Re: When Is NEIL YOUNG going to remaster the rest of his albums. I am sick of waiting

    And even if they are remastered the chances that we’ll get good sounding remasters are slim and none. :shake:

    Edit: I suppose it’s possible that Rhino could be put in charge of potential remasters, which would not be a tragedy but Neil owns his own masters, so that does not seem likely.
     
  5. seg763

    seg763 Senior Member

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    I'd be happy to see Time Fades Away get released
     
  6. misterbozz

    misterbozz Senior Member

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    Re: When Is NEIL YOUNG going to remaster the rest of his albums. I am sick of waiting

    Don't know about that, the 'missing four' released a couple of years ago sound excellent and the recent Greatest Hits too, so I would say there is definitely hope/precedent!
     
  7. DaveJ

    DaveJ Senior Member

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    Yes. And that includes waiting for Archives.

    Very disappointing. I was going to write a little more but what's the point? If you've followed Neil for the long haul you'll know it could be another 10 years! :shake:
     
  8. Re: When Is NEIL YOUNG going to remaster the rest of his albums. I am sick of waiting

    I have to disagree with this one. His last batch of 'OTB' 'Re-Ac-Tor', 'ASAB', and 'HADs', sounded excellent whether it be the HDCD redbooks, or the DVD-A's.

    I would like to see 'Trans' remastered on HDCD and DVD-A. However, the vinyl sounds great, so I won't have my feelings hurts if it never gets remastered. I personally love his album 'Trans'. 'Sample and Hold' is right up there on the level of 'Hey Hey, My My, into the black', in my book.
     
  9. Starwanderer

    Starwanderer Senior Member

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    :agree: :)
     
  10. shane

    shane Active Member

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    Oswego, NY, USA
    Cast my vote for 2 channel DVD-A versions of Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere and After The Goldrush.

    Shane
     
  11. pdenny

    pdenny 22-Year SHTV Participation Trophy Recipient

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    You mean, to the public this time? :angel:
     
  12. Tjazz

    Tjazz Breakfast at (a record store)

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    I think we should all be grateful that he's still alive.

    Remasters? Probably after he slips away.
     
  13. Another Side

    Another Side Senior Member

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    Re: When Is NEIL YOUNG going to remaster the rest of his albums. I am sick of waiting

    That’s a fair point. But I think that it’s fair to say that it’s not worth getting too excited about the prospect of Neil remasters in today’s day and age. The CD’s that were released in the 80’s all sound quite decent, and I don’t think there is much need for an upgrade sonically.
     
  14. street legal

    street legal Senior Member

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    I agree that most of Neil's CD's sound pretty good, but I agree that I would LOVE to see a reissue of "Time Fades Away". A great album that is criminally unavailable on CD. I have a scratchy old LP, & I can never seem to find a clean copy of that title. "Journey Through the Past", unavailable on CD, I can live without! :D
     
  15. shnaggletooth

    shnaggletooth Senior Member

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    Here's some comments Neil made about six years ago on the topic of remastering and re-releasing his back catalogue. (He says he likes DVD a lot, so it wouldn't be a surprise to see DualDisc reissues of his albums.) On The Beach and American Stars and Bars, which he refers to, were eventually reissued, along with a few others. His comment here on HDCD is similar to another comment of his I remember reading somewhere: "I want my HDCD!"
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    http://www.thrasherswheat.org/ptma/silver_gold.htm

    Q:And then after ’72, there’s a series of your records, albums like On the Beach, American Stars and Bars. And for some reason, you’ve never chosen to release these half dozen records on compact disc. Is there any reason why these certain discs weren’t released on CD and are they ever going to be?
    A:Well, that’s a deep question, because I was hoping that technology would come along to the point where it obviously could be at this point. We have -- the record companies have a huge problem right now with -- they have the DVD audio standard, which we worked for years to establish. And it’s -- the quality is just unbelievably better than the CD. I mean, it is -- it approaches what you expected from digital in the first place. And it’s much better. But someone cracked the code after we set it all up and there was all these committees and everything and we got it all together. And I was working with Warner Brothers and their representatives in that working group for…that was called to make the DVD audio standards. And it’s a wonderful standard where the artist has creativity, has control and you program the DVD so that when you put it in, it configures your system to play it back optimum for what’s on the disc. I mean, if you had 40 minutes of music on the disc, you could have a higher sampling rate. You might decide you want to listen in stereo or you might want to listen in 5-1. The artist decides. And the format keeps changing as the artist programmed it to be. So you get to take advantage of all of the digital information that the DVD has, the storage. By configuring your information to fit - to maximize it, much like on an old RPM record that you would -- a vinyl record that you would have to keep the length down to 18 or 19 minutes if you wanted the thing to really hammer when it came out of the radio. So you know, if you get too long, the tone goes away. So if you try to pack too much stuff into a DVD or a CD -- well, not a CD. CDs don’t sound good no matter what you do. But DVDs you can put so much information into them. But if you only have like -- suppose I made a record that was 39 minutes long. That thing would kill on DVD. I would use all of the computing in the DVD and focus -- and raise the level of quality of the sampling and the rates and everything to the point where the shorter it is, the higher the quality is. So the artist can control the quality vector -- you know, the quality level. And that’s -- that was a great thing. So what happened? We got it all together and then somebody figured out how to crack it, so that, of course, now it could be duplicated and so nobody -- you know, the record companies couldn’t make any money off of it. But, you know, that’s already happened with the CD, so what’s the big deal? Why not put out the quality? If there are people who are going to crack -- you know, if they’re going to crack it and send it around on napsters and whatever, you know, MP3, who cares? You know, I say, just let it go. We’ve got to work it out. It’s music. If people can’t afford music -- if they can’t afford it but they can get it with a napster, they can get music. Around the world, people who couldn’t get it and have it in their houses and listen to it over and over again are going to be able to do it. Now, what’s the difference -- why doesn’t the record companies come out with the higher quality? And then they’d have something to -- well, okay. We’ve got the higher quality, but maybe the napster or whatever can’t transfer the DVD quality or whatever. Maybe it’s only a CD quality. The MP3 is less than CD. I mean, MP3 is dog. The quality sucks. It’s all compressed and the data compression - it’s terrible. They’ve -- it’s -- that’s not good. But the DVD stuff was approaching the way it should be. And it was frustrating to me. So the answer to your question is: I didn’t really see things in CD because they don’t sound good. So I like the original analog masters. And I don’t want people to have CDs to listen to for the rest of time. I want to wait until these things are ready to be dumped into a format that I can understand is really relative to the original format in quality. (Laughter) There you go…

    Q:I’m never going to hear On the Beach again.
    A:You might hear it. You might hear it. I’m sure that -- I mean, now -- I mean, that’s why I waited so long. I had to -- you know, but they’re coming out now HDCD. I mean, it’s the best CDs you can make.
     
  16. Squealy

    Squealy Forum Hall Of Fame

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    Vancouver
    That interview is from 2000 -- note later on when he talks about how the first Archives volume is just about to come out!
     
  17. shnaggletooth

    shnaggletooth Senior Member

    Location:
    NJ
    You're right. He said the first box set would be released in Fall, 2000, and, of course, it never materialized. Apparently, only the Harvest DVD-Audio, with some of the bonus features he mentions, was the only thing able to be completed.
     
  18. Raf

    Raf Senior Member

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    Toronto, Ontario
    And then sometime later he gave interviews saying DVD-Audio was crap. :sigh:

    That's Neil for you.
     
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