Question about Steve's DCC "Ram"

Forgive me if this has been covered before - I have been searching the archives for an answer.
I just received a nice copy of Steve's "Ram" DCC CD. Brilliant job! I was wondering why, on the DCC version only, there is a several second gap between "Too Many People" and "3 Legs". All other versions are practically joined.

 

Perhaps the version you are used to, the common one, has a crossfade, and as a result is a tape generation further down than Steve's (I am speculating here, I am sure the master himself has the REAL answer).

 

It's more of a leader-less edit than a crossfade.

 

i've never noticed this, having only owned the DCC "Ram", but sounds very interesting - has anyone found anything in the archives?

Mr. Hoffman?

thanx!

 

bump.

 

bump. The mystery is killing me, Steve! I just got the Dr. Ebbetts mono "Ram" (amazing) and the mono mix also has the 2 songs almost joined.

 

Bump!

 

How is it? I was a little bit disappointed with his mono The Who sell out. I really like Ram. Are there big differences in comparison with the stereo mix? How is the soundquality on this one?

 

yeah could any compare Doc's and Steve's versions?

 

I don't want to derail the thread, but why would one compare the Doc's version and Steve's version? One is a needle drop of a mono LP with dubious mastering methods, the other one is mastered from the stereo master tape by Steve. The two couldn't be more different. (Unless you were only talking about the presence or absence of the gap in question.)

 

Okay, so please tell me how is the docs "dubious mastered" mono Ram? Is it worth it for an average McCartney fan who thinks that Ram might be McCartneys best solo album? Is there a big differnece between the stereo and the mono mix? Missing overdubs? Different takes? Punchier bass? What are the differences?

 

There's subtle differences from the stereo mix. The Mono Ram LP is worth a lot because it's rare but there's little difference in the mix.

 

Is it a fold down?

 

No, it is a distinct mono mix, with numerous differences throughout the album.

 

I've been wondering if the master for the mono mix was still around.

Guess that answers my question.

 

Something else that always niggled me about Ram

The UK vinyl LP had a channel drop out during the early part of 'Ram On' which always annoyed me when listening on headphones back in the 70s.

The first UK CD issue also had this dropout.

But the DCC and the UK remaster do not have it.

Is it safe to assume the initial UK CD was made from the same tape as the original vinyl and that the DCC used the original master tape? Or was the remaster digitally corrected?
Just wondered if anyone had any opinions?

JohnnyH

 

Thanks for the reply, Steve!

 

Johnny, I'd be willing to guess that it's the former.

 

The Doc's version of the 'Ram' mono mix is apparently not his own needle-drop. From what I've heard he just got the best-sounding bootleg CD's he could find and 'remastered' it from that... It's a nice mix, though, and well worth getting a copy of.

 

I received the Ebbett's mono "Ram," and the DCC gold version from the same overly generous friend and have delighted in both. To me, Steve's version is "warmer" than any other stereo version I've listened to, but mono is a recording style I have to admit only listening to seriously since comparing vinyl copies of the White Album in both stereo and mono about half a dozen years ago (that is, apart from classical, single miked recordings). My completely non-scientific critique style is to listen to anything new under a weathered pair of Denon SR-40 headphones. Being non-scientific, my own humble conclusion is that most of the DCC material sounds more organic and closer to something produced by a breathing human being than even the MOFI discs I have been privileged to scrutinize. As for Doc's mono releases, at the same time that the Ram mono disc came into my hands, so did much of Doc's latest mono Dylan stuff. Again, I appreciate the fact that I don't feel like I am being assaulted by sounds overly digitized. I don't know the official jargon for this tendency to make music sound like silicone overdosing, but more and more in my old age I find that my ears reject all of that hyper-digital overkill.
This is way off the subject of this thread, but the most disappointing example of my definition of digital death to a fine recording is the MOFI edition of Queen's "A Night At The Opera." Had a migraine for a week after that one under headphones. Am I making sense to anyone else?

 

Perfect sense.

 

That's it Steve. Just keep teasing us

 

An off topic question...


So both MFSL and DCC did "A Night At The Opera"? We KNOW which one sounds better.....


Are there any other titles common to both companies(besides Cream)?

LOVE the DCC Ram!


Evan

 

I know DCC and MFSL both put out the Cream titles, but I don't think there are any ALBUMS from Cream they both did...