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numer9
11-13-2006, 06:08 AM
Very odd:

A second life for your first PlayStation
Ancient game machine doubles as amazing-sounding hi-fi component
Recognize this device as a gaming machine or a hi-fi component?

Is there an original Sony PlayStation game console still in use in your home? Or do you have your PS1 buried at the bottom of a closet?

It turns out your video game console may be worth a lot more than you think. You might actually own one of the best sounding, high-fidelity CD players out there.

Audiophiles have been abuzz about PlayStation 1 audio for some time now. There has been a lot of experimenting with these game consoles with some very interesting results.
One of my guides in this journey has been Michael Lavorgna — an audio guru who writes for 6moons.com. Michael has been listening to his PlayStation for a while now and helped me find the best-sounding machines.

Sony’s first PlayStation was released in the United States in September, 1995. It had a custom MIPS R3000 processor and it used CD-ROMs for playing games. Sony sold more than 100 million units. That means there are a lot of used ones out there.

There were a number of different PlayStation models made over the PlayStation 1's five-year life span. Michael told me to look for a PlayStation with the model number SCPH-1001, which is the unit with separate audio and video RCA output jacks. That particular model allows audiophiles to use their own (expensive) audio cables to get “perfect” sound.

I also tried one of the other PlayStation consoles that didn’t have separate RCA output jacks. Other models had a single output cord with audio and video jacks at the end. I found one in good condition on eBay.

Before I started my listening tests, Michael had a warning for me: "Plug in the units — turn ‘em on — and don’t turn them off." It seems the PlayStations sound best when left on all the time. Michael was right. You shouldn’t even listen for the first three days. Both units need every second of the break-in period.

Overall, both of these PlayStation game consoles make really terrific CD component decks. Compared to a Pioneer DVD/CD/SACD player, the Sonys sounded clearer and cleaner. They also held their own against my top-of-the-line, Class A+ rated Sony SACD machine.

But in the end, the more expensive player was just plain better. As for the PlayStations, I preferred, slightly, the sound of my 009 model to the 1001 — but the differences were few.

I preferred the 1001’s original Sony game controller to the bright red “aftermarket” controller which came with the 009. PlayStation controllers are wired units. They are not as flexible as more modern wireless remote controls units which come with most devices. Plus, since the controllers weren’t designed for home audio use, you’re on your own to figure out what to press to get your music to play.

If you already own a PlayStation you should dust it off and give it a listen. And, if you want to buy one you should be able to find a console good shape for $25 or less on eBay. My 009 cost me all of $20 — including shipping. And, there were a bunch of neat video games thrown in as well.

© 2006 MSNBC Interactive

wolf66
11-13-2006, 06:24 AM
:righton: I have about five of them SCPH-1001 PS1s with chinch outputs on various setups apart from my main setup and they sound mighty fine to my ears. I bought some cheap sets of compatible remotes and the work just fine - even sold my old Meridian 208, cause it didn't sound better than those PS1s - weird really, but well worth a try to get one of these PS1s.

Phishphreak
11-13-2006, 06:37 AM
The idea that you need to break in a used playstation for 3 days is ridiculous. It probably had thousands of hours of use on it already, why would you need to leave it on for 3 days to get the most out of it. They also had overheating problems, so I don't think it would be wise to leave it running all the time.

gener8tr
11-13-2006, 06:54 AM
On a related but separate topic, from what I have read / heard, the PS2 DVD section is one of Sony's best as well. I use it in my bedroom with remote and it is very nice.

wolf66
11-13-2006, 07:03 AM
The idea that you need to break in a used playstation for 3 days is ridiculous. It probably had thousands of hours of use on it already, why would you need to leave it on for 3 days to get the most out of it. They also had overheating problems, so I don't think it would be wise to leave it running all the time.

Overheating can be a problem, thats right and a PS1 from say ten years ago needing break in time is indeed ridiculous :crazy:

johmbolaya
11-13-2006, 10:10 AM
Very interesting. With the Playstation 3 and the Nintendo Wii coming out in the next week or so, I'm sure those who haven't thrown out their PS1's will do so now.

Jeff Wong
11-13-2006, 11:17 AM
The idea that you need to break in a used playstation for 3 days is ridiculous. It probably had thousands of hours of use on it already, why would you need to leave it on for 3 days to get the most out of it. They also had overheating problems, so I don't think it would be wise to leave it running all the time.

It's probably not so ridiculous. Because "burn in" has to do with the dielectric, an interconnect or capacitors in an amp or other device, will need to go through the process again if things have been dormant any great length of time. "Break in" is a mechanical process (think of speaker surrounds or headphone drivers loosening up), which, once done, shouldn't require redoing.

Michael St. Clair
11-13-2006, 11:19 AM
I owned an SCPH-1001 for years and I used to install modchips in them and perform the occasional repair. The contruction of the transport mechanism and the board is pure crap compared to any decent mid-fi audio component. I'm sure the DAC is the cheapest one Sony could find.

Neta
11-13-2006, 12:34 PM
http://dogbreath.de/PS1/index.html

http://www.methe-family.de/cd.htm

Metoo
11-13-2006, 01:14 PM
Neta, I understood everything on the second page you linked to, except for the photographs. ;)

Simon A
11-13-2006, 01:26 PM
The next thing we'll be hearing is that those tape recorders used with the Commodore Vic 20 the make back-ups are the best cassette players invented... ;)

johmbolaya
08-19-2007, 01:33 AM
The next thing we'll be hearing is that those tape recorders used with the Commodore Vic 20 the make back-ups are the best cassette players invented... ;)

Cue the Memorex ad please.

calcajun
08-20-2007, 10:14 AM
I don't get it. Just a rant how great it sounds.
Why/What makes it sound so great?

fjhuerta
08-20-2007, 11:03 AM
Overheating can be a problem, thats right and a PS1 from say ten years ago needing break in time is indeed ridiculous :crazy:

The whole idea of using a $25 CDP and considering it's one of the best sounding out there is a bit strange, too.

Anyway... I did have a PS1, and I did use it as a transport for a while, maybe 8 years ago. Out of necessity, of course. I don't remember the PS1 being good... if anything, I always thought the video outputs could add some noise to the audio signal...

Brother_Rael
08-20-2007, 12:51 PM
Maybe the best games machine for a while out there. As a standalone CD player? I'll have to remain to be convinced on that one folks!

bru87tr
08-20-2007, 04:11 PM
The next thing we'll be hearing is that those tape recorders used with the Commodore Vic 20 the make back-ups are the best cassette players invented... ;)


old post simon but still funny. :righton:

swoosh
08-20-2007, 04:11 PM
Ive tried one before, to be honest, it would kill most budget players, like any marantz players from the 63 series, imo. Its extremely polite sounding, so you gotta pair it well.

wysi
08-20-2007, 04:22 PM
Perhaps a lame attempt at driving up eBay prices for crappy old PS consoles. I wonder if it worked. ;)

swoosh
08-20-2007, 04:26 PM
Give it a try, compare it to budget cd players, i think you would be amused. And for 20 bucks or so, you don't have much to lose anyway.

wysi
08-20-2007, 05:05 PM
I've got one sitting in the music room at the moment, though I could do with a proper set of connectors to attach it to the rest of the system. I'll post back with my impressions.

MichaelR
08-21-2007, 04:38 AM
Mine (SCPH -1002) sounds about the same as my pioneer 676 (578A) -definitely doesn't blow it away as you would expect for a 3k sounding player. Still, I didn't leave it on for 3 days !!

It is interesting though, and I will have to try again .. including the 3 days on thing.


Michael

OliverReich
08-21-2007, 03:14 PM
I started looking for my "vintage"/"original" playstation...
I forgot I threw it out during the move...
Damn...

runofthemill
01-29-2008, 07:07 AM
Ok, we've all heard that those first models of the PS1 were good cd players, but COME ON!!!

EBAY LINK (http://cgi.ebay.com/Playstation-Original-Has-MODEL-NO-SCPH-1001_W0QQitemZ110215895772QQihZ001QQcate goryZ62054QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem)

Maybe he just doesn't know how to use decimal points?

TONEPUB
01-29-2008, 08:24 AM
Junk then junk now

bonjo
01-29-2008, 10:40 AM
Reminds me of back in the 90's when Stereophile was plugging that piece-o-crud Optimus (RadioShack) portable CD player.