View Full Version : Q for Steve... CD or CD-R
Claus
11-29-2002, 09:19 AM
I'm sure Steve can give us a proper answer.
How the sound differs from a test pressing on CD-R (copied from the mastertape) and the final CD, which goes thru' all pressing stages???
Steve Hoffman
11-29-2002, 11:08 AM
Herr Cheng,
I have a few secret tricks that I do to the CD master to make sure that the factory pressed version sounds exactly like the CD-R ref I clone from the master tape. It took some trial and error in the past to get the two to match up, but using some test tones and pink noise, I finally got a formula for success. So, they do for me.
:)
mudbone
11-29-2002, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by Steve Hoffman
Herr Cheng,
I have a few secret tricks that I do to the CD master to make sure that the factory pressed version sounds exactly like the CD-R ref I clone from the master tape. It took some trial and error in the past to get the two to match up, but using some test tones and pink noise, I finally got a formula for success. So, they do for me.
:)
Steve, what do you use to produce the CD-R ref clone?
mud-
Steve Hoffman
11-29-2002, 12:48 PM
HHB stand alone CD recorder.
Bob Lovely
11-29-2002, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by mudbone
Steve, what do you use to produce the CD-R ref clone?
mud-
Mud,
The HHB is super, in my opinion. I have one as well. I believe that Steve has the 830. I have the 800.
Highly recommended!
Bob
mudbone
11-29-2002, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by Bob Lovely
Mud,
The HHB is super, in my opinion. I have one as well. I believe that Steve has the 830. I have the 800.
Highly recommended!
Bob
Steve, Bob, thanks!!!
Anyone have a link or picture of this thing?
mud-
mudbone
11-29-2002, 01:08 PM
This?
Steve Hoffman
11-29-2002, 01:08 PM
Mine is this one:
http://www.oade.com/cd_recorders/cdr850.html
It has a nice analog sound, and it won't break down every month like the Alesis Masterlink....;)
Bob Lovely
11-29-2002, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by Steve Hoffman
Mine is this one:
http://www.oade.com/cd_recorders/cdr850.html
It has a nice analog sound, and it won't break down every month like the Alesis Masterlink....;)
I stand corrected! - Steve has the 850! - Cool.
My 800 was an earlier model but, I still love it! That 850 looks like a sweet unit!
Bob:cool:
Steve, do you use it as a listening player as well in your home set up or something different yet again?
Steve Hoffman
11-29-2002, 01:28 PM
I don't use it as a listening player, no. One could though, but I use my Sony SD-777 instead up there.
Any perceivable differences between the 2 listening wise or is it just a convenience thing?
Steve Hoffman
11-29-2002, 01:40 PM
Dave, the playback of the 777 is razor flat, which is what I need (obviously). The HHB sounds fine, but I detect more "air". The unit is very "control-able" sound wise with different interconnects.
Todd Fredericks
11-29-2002, 01:42 PM
That looks like a very nice unit!
Todd
Steve Hoffman
11-29-2002, 01:44 PM
Yeah, it makes a nice sounding CD-R. I think these are probably around for around $500-$600 these days...
REAL TIME RECORDING ONLY THOUGH....
Todd Fredericks
11-29-2002, 01:55 PM
Yeah, it makes a nice sounding CD-R. I think these are probably around for around $500-$600 these days...
For good, dependable quality, that's not too bad of a price. For now, I'm happy with my Plexwriter but one day I'd love to get a stand alone recorder....
Todd
Bob Lovely
11-29-2002, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by Steve Hoffman
Yeah, it makes a nice sounding CD-R. I think these are probably around for around $500-$600 these days...
REAL TIME RECORDING ONLY THOUGH....
Steve,
Back "in the day" when I bought my 800, I paid about $1200. :eek:
Well, it is built like a tank...
Bob:)
Grant
11-30-2002, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by Todd Fredericks
For good, dependable quality, that's not too bad of a price. For now, I'm happy with my Plexwriter but one day I'd love to get a stand alone recorder....
Todd
Why? Plextor is for computers and is the best for making CD-Rs that way. I prefer mastering with software, anyway. Everything is more precise.
Todd Fredericks
11-30-2002, 08:39 PM
Grant, don't get me wrong, I love the Plexwriter and also using software to do work but a nice stand alone CD-R would be nice in my main system in the living room. It would just make things easier when doing a vinyl transfer, etc. Right now I have my PC and recording equipment in the bedroom. If I go for a stand alone CD-R, it would be some time later next year or so. Right now, I'm trying to build up my savings because of the lack of work situation. As luck would have it, I needed to replace my DVD player but I couldn't go through the holidays this year without being able to watch some movies. This year especially...
Todd
Grant
11-30-2002, 10:12 PM
hey, I understand the money crunch. We have them too!
My PC is part of my main system! Heh! Heh!
ZIPGUN99
12-01-2002, 07:01 AM
I have better results making cd copies on the stand alone burner. if I copy something from disc to disc (cdp to standalone) thru a fibre optic cable, it comes out better than copying it to the hard drive and making a disc.
In theory, it shouldn't matter, but it does.
(actually, it's just a hair better, but it's that hair that makes us nuts!)
Todd Fredericks
12-01-2002, 08:00 AM
My PC is part of my main system! Heh! Heh!
This is the first time I've separated my PC from the main system. When I first moved to this apt. in May I had the workstation in the living room (in a corner). After a month or so I decided I wanted to make the living room more about comfort and place to relax rather than about access to gear. I moved the PC/recording gear to the bedroom and 90% of the time it's worked out fine. The 10% drag is when I want to make a vinyl transfer or monitor some stuff on the good system. When I need to do a transfer, etc., I hook up my Tascam DA-20 to the main system and then return it to the bedroom system (not the end of the world) and when I need to monitor something from the PC on the big system I made a very long coax that wil feed it a digital signal (so far no drop-outs/used just to monitor, etc.). I kind of like keeping it separate at ths time. It's nice sitting in the living room (especially with guests) and not having clutter. I bet my wife would've been proud...
Todd
lukpac
12-01-2002, 09:12 AM
Originally posted by ZIPGUN99
I have better results making cd copies on the stand alone burner. if I copy something from disc to disc (cdp to standalone) thru a fibre optic cable, it comes out better than copying it to the hard drive and making a disc.
Just wondering...what type of software were you using to extract the disc? Exact Audio Copy? What type of drive were you using to rip and burn?
Grant
12-01-2002, 10:30 AM
Also, some CD ROMs are horrible at digital audio extracton. And, if you go 1:1 copying, you must make sure that the data isn't running through the soundcard.
ZIPGUN99
12-01-2002, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by lukpac
Just wondering...what type of software were you using to extract the disc? Exact Audio Copy? What type of drive were you using to rip and burn?
I started using audiograbber, the check sums come out all right. My burner is a mitsui something or other that came with this HewlettPaclard. I've experimented with burning at different speeds. but usually, a fibre optic transfer sounds a hair better. I mean the sound is all there, but I lose a little presence.
You think it's worth upgrading to a plextor?
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