more on the vinyl transfer

[trilogia]

i have been experiementing when i have time with recording vinyl to cd after i bought my turtle beach soundcard. it is very interesting stuff i have to say, and quite fun. i've been reading quite a bit in my wavelab help contents and learning things here and there about dithering and noise shaping and other things.

i usually use a small preamp i have to run my turntable through and was getting hum through it. the other day i tried just using my regular home stereo receiver running it out from the tape out into my soundcard and it sounds pretty good. no hum at all. the meters werent even moving at all when i hooked it up.

anyhow, i recorded captain beyonds first album a few nights ago. its not the cleanest copy. noisegate is kind of a pain in my ***, for it's hard to use when a song fades out and goes below the threshold. its tricky. also, i dont have a declicking plugin or anything.

grant, you use noisegate right? dont worry, i record in 24 bit initially if im going to tinker around with the wave and then dither down and all that you have suggested before. just wondering what you do when it fades out with noisegate to avoid it cutting the fade out. also, i cant just record in 32 bit float initially with wavelab. i can save it as a 32 bit float file though. do you recommend that? and i read last night about dc offsets. wavelab says its good to eliminate the dc offset on a recording if you are going to apply effects and such. would you agree with this?

thanks.

[Grant]

You have your noise gate's threshhold set too high. I also suggest going with a fast attack of aroind 1-10, and a release of around 80-100. You will have to play with the parametrers to get good results.

I usually use a noise gate on tapes and NR on vinyl.

I would say, save to 32-bit float before processing to take advantage of the increased dynamic range. If I record with Sound Forge, I have to convert to 24 or 32-bit after recording in 16-bit. Cool Edit does the conversion on the fly to save time.

The Santa Cruz card is good enough that it doesn't produce DC offset, at least not in MY computer. I don't bother with removing the offset because there is no offset. One should remove any offset before doing any processing except declicking or declipping. In fact, declipping, if it ever needs to be done, should be done before ALL else.

I recommend that you get some kind of declicking/NR plug-in.

[trilogia]

do you know where i can get a declicking plugin compatible with wavelab?

[Grant]

There are two basic types of plug-ins available that Waves uses, VST and Direct-X.

Do your run Windows or a Mac?

[trilogia]

i use windows ME. i cant get any of the direct x plug in's to work with wavelab. they are all in the master section in the program but they dont come up when you click on them. i read that you can drop the direct x icon into the wavelab one so they can work but i cant find the right icon for direct x. i dont think a declicker plug in is in there anyhow though.

[Grant]

I am not familiar with Wavelab.

What I suggest you do is first make sure you are upgraded to the latest Direct-X version, which I think is 8.1.

I'm assuming that you haven't installed any plug-ins on your computer. You should download the plugs or buy them. Of course, you're gonna have to pay for most of them.

[trilogia]

hey grant, there is a stereo mix volume control on my mixer in wavelab. what does it mean exactly and does it effect recording? i know i have a stereo plugged Y adapter so thats all good and everything. everything seems right to me in the settings but i just recorded something and noticed when i play the second song on the original vinyl, the guitar comes in playing only in the left channel in the beginning of the song but the recording has it playing through both channels. i dont get it. does it have to do with the stereo mix control?

[Grant]

Originally posted by trilogia
hey grant, there is a stereo mix volume control on my mixer in wavelab. what does it mean exactly and does it effect recording? i know i have a stereo plugged Y adapter so thats all good and everything. everything seems right to me in the settings but i just recorded something and noticed when i play the second song on the original vinyl, the guitar comes in playing only in the left channel in the beginning of the song but the recording has it playing through both channels. i dont get it. does it have to do with the stereo mix control?

Remember? I don't have Wavelab.