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tomhayes
04-01-2005, 03:33 AM
I just saw the midnight showing. I really enjoyed this film. Know that this is an "R" rated film and BELIEVE it is a HARD R.

Some of the acting was poor (Rosario Dawson) and some was BRILLIANT (Micket Rouke.)

I highly recommend this film. If you film any of the following offensive DO NOT see it:

Shooting a crooked priest in the confessional.
Placing a decapitated head on a bible.
An IRA hitman talking about how great it is to see pubs blow up.
Decapitations.
Nude women.
Politicians portrayed as crooks.
Michael Madsen.

If you can take those then GO SEE THIS film.

-Tom

crimsoncing
04-01-2005, 10:21 AM
very slowly they are starting to do comics right in films. Amerccan Splendor, Hellblazer and now this one. Now if only some one could do Love and Rockets the right way.....

teaser5
04-01-2005, 12:23 PM
Man, it's good to read something positive about Mickey Rourke. Did you see the article in the new Rolling Stone? I loved him in Diner, Pope of Greenwhich Village, Barfly, etc. Boy did he ever hit rock bottom. Good to see him on the rebound. Perhaps this film will do for his career what Pulp Fiction did for Travolta's. Thanks for the thread!
Peace-
Norm

Dan C
04-01-2005, 12:39 PM
Man, it's good to read something positive about Mickey Rourke. Did you see the article in the new Rolling Stone? I loved him in Diner, Pope of Greenwhich Village, Barfly, etc. Boy did he ever hit rock bottom. Good to see him on the rebound. Perhaps this film will do for his career what Pulp Fiction did for Travolta's. Thanks for the thread!
Peace-
Norm

Agree about Mikey Rourke. Such a promising talent who's career really went to hell in a hand basket. Hope this brings him back from the depths.

I'm a frustrated fan of Robert Rodriquez. Sometimes he really nails it, like on the first Spy Kids and the original "El Mariachi". But he can really suck larger than life, like "From Dusk Till Dawn" and "Spy Kids 3". "Once Upon a Time In Mexico" was promising in parts, but overall a failure.

The guy's really smart and creative, but he seems to get distracted easily. Hope this is one of his better efforts.

dan c

Gary
04-01-2005, 01:28 PM
Thanks for the warning. The W. would be very unimpressed! :eek:

charlie W
04-01-2005, 01:54 PM
I just got out of the theatre and I wasn't happy with it. Like Dan C, I am a frustrated Rodriguez fan, too. It had its moments(particularly the Mickey Rourke chapter) but it just falls apart with some silly dialogue and over the top action/violence sequence. I guess Robert was trying to top his friend Quentin Tarentino. It has a very stylish, rotoscoped, semi-animated film noir look and excellent cinematography. If I had to grade it, it would be "C".

dbwebhead
04-02-2005, 10:01 AM
Saw it last night.

My original thoughts after leaving the theater were:
1. wow
2. overrated
3. best (hollywood) film of the year (so far)
4. wow

The second episode with Mickey Rourke is by far the best. RR could base a entire film on this character alone. Kudos to MR for finally getting a part he can live in.

The third episode is by far the worst and was like a wet blanket after the MR one. I love Clive Owen but he was a bit miscast here. Rosario is more-than-nice to look at, but did not impress me. Bad dialogue did not help. I thought Brittany Murphy was just plain bad. Benicio del was more interesting, but his part was 'um limited, if you know what I mean (and you will if you see it). I heard that Tarantino directed this (weakest) episode and it was obvious because of the Kill Bill influences (samurai sword-yielding babes). Been there, done that.

Bruce Willis bookend episode was good, not great, kinda creepy in many ways. Look, Pulp Fiction it ain't, so don't go expecting this or you will be disappointed. Michael Madsen was atrocious here. Liked Jessica Alba though.

Overall a fresh, very graphic update of one of my favorite film genres - film noir. And for that I give it a B+. Many sequels to follow, no doubt. Not a great date flick BTW, unless your sig o is into murder, mayhem, and body parts.
Yeesh!

JoelDF
04-02-2005, 10:42 AM
...If you find any of the following offensive DO NOT see it:

...
Michael Madsen.
...

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I've actually always liked Madsen, but that was still funny.

tomhayes
04-02-2005, 10:54 AM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I've actually always liked Madsen, but that was still funny.

I was just making fun, I like him too.

He was at Comic Con talking about Kill Bill Volume 2 and he seemed a bit mellow and a bit spacey but was very cool. He signed some stuff but it cost like 5 bucks. I think his kids spent the money on comics :)

nukevor
04-02-2005, 06:30 PM
Hope to see it tonight (4/2). Can't wait for the DVD:
http://dvd.ign.com/articles/600/600858p1.html

Robin L
04-02-2005, 06:36 PM
It was like watching 'Battleship Potemkin" for the first time. It's a whole new visual language. For that alone "Sin City" is going to get into the history books.

t3hSheepdog
04-02-2005, 06:50 PM
:thumbsup:
Last I saw MR, I was walking into the family room and my sister was watching another horrible, cheesy made-for-TV movie on the Disney Channel about a haunted movie theater. Needless to say anything about Disney is horrible especially TV. I'm walking through the house and MR is there trying to convince people which movies to see and not to see. Not only did it seem like he was overacting, but it also seemed like he was thinking "why am I doing this crap" throughout the entire film. It seems like he's come away from that. glad to see he's back and it sounds like I'm going to enjoy this movie.

JohnG
04-02-2005, 08:08 PM
A movie that has:

Shooting a crooked priest in the confessional.
Placing a decapitated head on a bible.
An IRA hitman talking about how great it is to see pubs blow up.
Decapitations.
Nude women.
Politicians portrayed as crooks.
Michael Madsen.


When is the next showing? :D

crimsoncing
04-03-2005, 05:07 AM
I am very hapy with it. Not as a fan of the directorbut as a fan of Frank Miller. This is the frist film of a comic that got it dead right. some of the scenes just jumped out at me and forgot how much I loved SIN CITY the comic. For people who have not read the graphics novels, they may seem a little corny and over the top but this films gets it all..right down to the perfect use of colors (or lack there of) The film is based on only 3 of the books, Sin City, The Yellow Bastard and The Big Kill. There are other still out there so if you liked the film, go pick them up and expand your world even more.

tomhayes
04-03-2005, 07:03 AM
The DVD will have the entire stories which will be 45 minutes a piec.

http://dvd.ign.com/articles/600/600858p1.html?fromint=1 :

"We shot the full stories of the books," Rodriguez says. "And I knew we could truncate it down, we weren't going to lose any scenes. Eventually they would all be available for people to see. The DVD will come out with the theatrical cut, and then there will be a separate disc that's got the individual episodes separate with their own title card and you could just watch The Big Fat Kill from beginning to end in its full cut as a single story and then switch over and watch The Yellow Bastard, and that's 45 minutes. It will have all the material back in, so it will be like the experience of picking up the books where you pick up one story and you read it from beginning to end and it will have all the material in it. So you can kind of shuffle your own version of the movie and just watch them all separately."

nukevor
04-03-2005, 01:16 PM
Just saw it last night. Great movie! I was surprised by the ending. In a way it was like a Houdini movie: How many times can the main characters escape death?! Sure, it was over the top, but that's what gives the movie its charm. The Tarantino story had its moments yet actually made me laugh harder than all the other segments ("Hey...!"). My favorite story was the "Goldie" one. Is it just me, or is the Micky Rourke character (the makeup job) reminiscent of the "Hell Boy" character? Oh, and, um...Jessica sure looks good in black and white. :love: I hope they release "Sin City" in IMAX!!
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Squealy
04-03-2005, 10:52 PM
I heard that Tarantino directed this (weakest) episode and it was obvious because of the Kill Bill influences (samurai sword-yielding babes).

The only part of the film directed by Tarantino was the conversation between Clive Owen and Benicio del Toro in the car.

andy749
04-04-2005, 03:09 AM
I have mixed feelings about it...some good, some so-so.I came away a little disappointed...read a few good reviews before I went...I guess I expected too much.

I am a Mickey Rourke fan and would love to see this push him back up where he belongs.

Rourke's parole officer was very hot.

Ken_McAlinden
04-04-2005, 07:05 AM
I really liked the film. Some people will have problems with the use of cartoon physics, but that's straight out of the comics and part of their charm. If it is showing in digital projection near you, I would recommend catching it that way. There are no issues with choosing a film stock that supports black and white with flashes of color that way.

Regards,

tomhayes
04-04-2005, 07:20 AM
I saw it agan last night. The acting wasn't quite as annoying.

Are these stories going on all at the same time?

Notice that Hartigan, Marv, Dwight, Yellow Bastard, Nancy, Shellie and Jackie Boy were in the bar at the same time.

So does that mean that:
Marv beat up Jackie Boy before Jackie Visited Shellie's house? (Jackie says to Becky that he has been getting beat up all day?

Was that Lucille's finger they used to fool Hartigan?

Why didn't Kevin attack Hartigan?

Who hired The Man to kill Becky? Was it Sen Rourke?

poweragemk
04-04-2005, 07:38 AM
Rourke's parole officer was very hot.
:agree: :agree: :agree:

I thought it was INTENSE, but definitely not a waste of time in any sense. Visually, quite stunning!

poweragemk
04-04-2005, 07:50 AM
I saw it agan last night. The acting wasn't quite as annoying.

Are these stories going on all at the same time?

Notice that Hartigan, Marv, Dwight, Yellow Bastard, Nancy, Shellie and Jackie Boy were in the bar at the same time.

Yeah, I think they are weaved together by the end of the movie.

So does that mean that:
Marv beat up Jackie Boy before Jackie Visited Shellie's house? (Jackie says to Becky that he has been getting beat up all day?

Didn't notice that part.

Was that Lucille's finger they used to fool Hartigan?

I don't think any connection was made...conceivably, though.

Why didn't Kevin attack Hartigan?

That bugged me a little bit, as he would clearly have nailed Hartigan to the floor.

Who hired The Man to kill Becky? Was it Sen Rourke?
I thought it would have been the Old Town Women...

tomhayes
04-04-2005, 09:08 AM
[quote =handletom}Was that Lucille's finger they used to fool Hartigan?
I don't think any connection was made...conceivably, though.
[/QUOTE]

I think it was though. If Kevin was known to be a cannibal by Cardinal Rourke and Sen Rourke had need of a finger wouldn't he just ask his Son for it?

And was his son killing people and then Kevin is eating them? Or did Kevin only kill 6? Yellow Bastard said he had killed dozens, if not hundreds, of people in the 8 years Hartigan was in jail.

That brings up: how did Hartigan know where Nancy lived? Was Nancy still living at home?? If so why didn't Sen. Rourke find her??

I do think you are right about the hitman being hired by the girls of Old Town.

New question: Do you think Appolonia Six records will sell more copies after Roasrio (Can't Act) Dawson's outfit in the movie??

lbangs
04-04-2005, 10:04 AM
Any one watching this film after first reading the graphic novels will have no doubt why Frank Miller scored a co-director credit; the books are storyboards for the finished product. That certainly does not take away from Robert Rodriguez’s work; those szme people will also know that transferring Miller’s vision to film is an impossible feat. Sometimes, though, the impossible happens, and in this case, Hollywood has blessed us with this masterpiece of twisted vision, hard luck life, and the gritty individuals who suffer both. The casting, even the choices that at first had me worried, is inspired and precise; Rourke’s career may not get quite the boost Travolta’s did from Pulp Fiction, but if so, it won’t be because the actor faltered here. The screenplay practically lifts its entire body from the excellent source material, and the technology and the artistry to imagine and realize it both soar breathtakingly. Somebody obviously has pictures of the ratings board in compromising positions, as even the darkest, grisliest, and most explicit portions of the original somehow manage that R rating. The result is a joy ride the likes of which we see on screen once or twice every half-decade. I honestly did not realize Rodriguez had this in him. You will think of Pulp Fiction, and this is not quite up to that level of glory, but it is no small praise to state that it is not that far below. Fans will delight in the miracle of seeing the comic live; newbies might run for cover. What can I say? Welcome to Sin City.

Shalom, y'all!

L. Bangs

lbangs
04-04-2005, 10:07 AM
Rourke's parole officer was very hot.

Ah, the Spy Kids' mom...

Or, as I like to think of her, Karen Sisco. Her friends call her Carla, they tell me.

Shalom, y'all!

L. Bangs