Grover at it again! GROVER ULTIMATE REFERENCE cables are ready...

[Gary]

honestly, the ur7 is it for me for awhile. i enjoying them immensely.

Me, too! :)

[mcow1]

Me, too! :)
Same here. :D

[Tullman]

I really love my U8's! The lable on mine didn't have an 'R', just said "Grover U8".

I let them cook on a Fry Kleaner for 24 hours each pair before putting them in my system. I just can't believe how great these sound, and when you consider the price, I'm just floored! :D :cool: :righton:

You are correct U8.

I don't blame you guys with the U7's. Maybe, for Your systems the UR7's match better and maybe for my system the 9's 10's or 11's won't sound as good. I've waited a few generations before getting the U8's. I just needed some new cables for one of my vintage systems and just for laughs I put the U8s between my cd player and preamp. Now, I'm thinking of getting more. :shh:

[sberger]

You are correct U8.

I don't blame you guys with the U7's. Maybe, for Your systems the UR7's match better and maybe for my system the 9's 10's or 11's won't sound as good. I've waited a few generations before getting the U8's. I just needed some new cables for one of my vintage systems and just for laughs I put the U8s between my cd player and preamp. Now, I'm thinking of getting more. :shh:

i don't know if they match better. i do know that grover seems to come out with a new version of his cables ever couple of months or so, which is certainly his perogative. but after buying version 5-7, as well as his phono cable, i gotta draw the line somewhere. i think he makes a terrific product, and his price is very good. but i just can't justify buying new cables as often as he puts new ones on the market. and i do find it a bit odd that he seems to keep coming up with supposedley better versions so quickly. it was only back in april when i got the 7's because he swore that these were the best cables he'd ever made, and now only a couple of months later he's saying the same about the 8's. could be, but odd to me nonetheless.

[Gary]

I think it sorts goes like this: Grovers wires are in constant research and development. Once a new design is approved by his researchers, a new version is born.

For me, I think I will upgrade every year or so. :)

[nelamvr6]

I think it sorts goes like this: Grovers wires are in constant research and development. Once a new design is approved by his researchers, a new version is born.

For me, I think I will upgrade every year or so. :)

I think I'm good for a while, quite a while actually.

These cables sound as good to me as anything I've heard. I actually replaced a pair of Audience Au24 with a pair of the U8's and I noticed an improvement right away.

Grover's U8's beat a $500 pair of IC's for just over 1/4 the price.

[Fatman]

For me to notice an improvement, would I have to replace all my interconnects (i.e., one between CDP and processor / one between processor and amp) or can I do this piecemeal. In other words, is it worth just getting one interconnect?

Right now I'm using RatShack interconnects.

Thanks,
Anthony

[Gary]

For me to notice an improvement, would I have to replace all my interconnects (i.e., one between CDP and processor / one between processor and amp) or can I do this piecemeal. In other words, is it worth just getting one interconnect?

Right now I'm using RatShack interconnects.

Thanks,
Anthony

I think you'd notice an improvement with just one interconnect in your system.

Of course, you'll go 'crazy' waiting to buy the next interconnect.... :D

[nelamvr6]

It'd be hard to not notice an improvement over RatShack cables!

[Tullman]

i don't know if they match better. i do know that grover seems to come out with a new version of his cables ever couple of months or so, which is certainly his perogative. but after buying version 5-7, as well as his phono cable, i gotta draw the line somewhere. i think he makes a terrific product, and his price is very good. but i just can't justify buying new cables as often as he puts new ones on the market. and i do find it a bit odd that he seems to keep coming up with supposedley better versions so quickly. it was only back in april when i got the 7's because he swore that these were the best cables he'd ever made, and now only a couple of months later he's saying the same about the 8's. could be, but odd to me nonetheless.

I'm not going to drive my self crazy trying to keep up with all of Grover's latest designs. I was just in the market for some cables and decided to get the latest version of Grover's. I do think that upgrading every year or two isn't a bad Idea. It is nice that Grover allows upgrades for a significant discount.

[JorgeGvb]

I'm not going to drive my self crazy trying to keep up with all of Grover's latest designs. I was just in the market for some cables and decided to get the latest version of Grover's. I do think that upgrading every year or two isn't a bad Idea. It is nice that Grover allows upgrades for a significant discount.


:agree: That is what I did. I waited until a few versions had been released before I upgraded.

[Phil]

Oh, what a terrible itch... I have to ask the obvious: any comparisons of the U6.1 vs. U8? I have the U6.1 and enjoy them completely. There was quite a jump between the U4 and U6.1. Are the differences more modest for the latest iterations.

[soundQman]

Did the link to contact Grover disappear? Or get moved to somewhere else? :confused:

[MothAudio]

I have the U7's with the upgraded RCA. Had them about two months. Curious what other U7 users have discovered vs earlier versions or how they stack up against the latest. Thanks. My only experience is with the much earlier Grover II cables on loan a few years back. Loved them but impossible to make any intelligent compare / contrast vs the new stuff. My minimalist system [no pre-amp/one analog cable] is 45 SET-based driving Silverline Sonatina's [version I]. The U7's replaced the Silverline Audio [copper] cables.

MikE

[Gary]

Did the link to contact Grover disappear? Or get moved to somewhere else? :confused:

No, it's there. Click on the "Contact Us" button which is at the bottom of almost every page. This sends an e-mail to the Webmaster who will then forward it to Grover. :)

[soundQman]

No, it's there. Click on the "Contact Us" button which is at the bottom of almost every page. This sends an e-mail to the Webmaster who will then forward it to Grover. :)
Thanks. I see it now. I was looking for a larger button. :)

[rlmacklin]

Grover UR-8s and synergy w/Black Sand Cable Violet Z1 power cords, etc. -

I have previously posted comments in the "Power Cord Shootout" thread on the results of placing two 6-foot Black Sand Cable Violet Z1 power cords on my Denon DVD-3910 source and Modwright SWL 9.0SE (w/ Bendix 6900 tubes) linestage (I received them 6/21) and I subsequently ordered a 12-foot Violet Z1 for my power amp.
All 2-channel signal path ICs were Grover UR-7.

I received the 12-foot Violet on Monday 7/3 and placed it on Odyssey Stratos HT-3 (w/ capacitance upgrades). When I powered the amp back up there was initial brightness/brittleness in the highs but it settled down completely in a few hours, so I think it was the amp having had the power off. John at Black Sand had "cooked" this 12-foot Violet for at least 40 hours after making it, so it was somewhat burned-in to start with. The Violet replaced an Element Cable ElementCord (10 gauge) and the Violet is 12 gauge.

I listened to a lot of 2-channel music over the 4th of July holiday and rest of that week, and found I like my 2-channel system sonics even better with 3 Violet power cords on the source, preamp, and power amp.
The 12-foot Violet seemed all the way burned-in at about 150-200 hours.

The upper end of the dynamic range may not have increased that much over the previous 10-gauge ElementCord (at the same volume setting), but the highest impacts are cleaner and clearer. The 12-foot Violet did "expand" the "dynamic range" in the sense that lower level details are heard and microdynamics are cleaner/clearer with the further lowered noise floor (again at the same volume setting).

With the additional Violet on the power amp, the definition of the tone and timbre for each note, instrument, and voice was noticeably improved, and the soundstage was deeper.

Received Grover UR-8 ICs on 7/8 and placed these on all signal paths of 2-channel system, and burned-in over weekend.
Grover UR-8 is even more detailed/lower noise floor and
larger soundstage compared to broken-in UR-7 and carries more of the emotion/feeling in the music to my ears.

I tried my usual first test - Bob Marley "Songs of Freedom" set
CDs 3 and 4 and found more previously unheard musical detail/lower noise floor and
"huge" 3-D soundstage.

The UR-8s on top of the Violets now seems to "do justice" to the new Moody Blues SACDs.

What really hooked me re using the UR-8s with the Violets was listening to the DG re-master CD of the mature Nathan Milstein doing J.S. Bach Partita 2 for Solo Violin - the Grover UR-8s (in combination with the Violet power cords) capture not just a "fuller" sound, but the instrument/music now sounds "complete" in some sense in carrying the feeling and emotion in the music better than UR-7 and Violets. :righton:

The immediacy/presence is stunning. :eek:

I find the Violet power cords "dead neutral," very clear/transparent, and musical on all components on which I have placed them.

I find the Grover UR-8s very neutral, highly transparent and musical as well.

Grover UR-8 ICs/Violet power cords combo is "synergistic" in my 2-channel system, where I now have UR-8 ICs on all signal paths and Violet power cords on all components.
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I ordered more UR-8s to cover all additional signal paths for the center and surround channels.
I will order more Violet Z1 power cords for the center and surround channels preamps and amp.

My ears are very happy!

[Gary]

Glad you have happy ears! :)

You did not fill out your profile so I have to ask: What speakers are you using?

[rlmacklin]

For 2-channel, speakers are POLK SDA-1s purchased ~ 1985, upgraded with the new silk dome tweeters. Grover UR speaker cables. I also sent Grover the blade/blade connectors and had him make me a custom SDA interconnect cable using the same Grover UR speaker cable.
Multi-channel: same Polk SDA1s front left and right ... Same tweeters are used in my (timbre-matched for music) Polk FXi-5s used for surround speakers and Polk CSi-5 center.
The center speaker is currently on Grover SR speaker cable and surrounds are on Element Cable Twisted Pair speaker cable (center and surrounds cabling will eventually be upgraded to Grover UR speaker cables)...

[Gary]

Ahhh, a Polk fan!

Thanks for responding! :)

Gary

[Plinko]

Does Grover make 5 pin DIN to RCA phono cable with ground?

[Oyama]

Does Grover make 5 pin DIN to RCA phono cable with ground?


He made me a custom 25pin DIN to RCA cable. Just make sure to ask for a heavy-duty DIN connector.

[Plinko]

Great! How do you like your cable? My Audioquest is a bit flabby sounding.

[Oyama]

Great! How do you like your cable? My Audioquest is a bit flabby sounding.

Excellent...way better than my other custom cable it replaced. Much more detail without sounding thin or harsh.

[Tullman]

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I ordered more UR-8s to cover all additional signal paths for the center and surround channels.


My ears are very happy!
After hearing the UR-8s I ordered to more pair.:righton: For $160. a pair they are a screaming deal!