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AKA
06-17-2002, 03:47 PM
Will my computer try to read it, or will it just act like there's no CD in the drive at all? My computer is currently doing the latter, and the disc in question is Joey Ramone's "Don't Worry About Me."

Sckott
06-17-2002, 04:41 PM
Macrovision encoded discs usually rip sounding like poop. They don't act like there's no CD in the drive.

Bring this disc over to another computer and you'll find your CD rom drive has a quirk with that disc, alone. :(

AKA
06-17-2002, 07:45 PM
It's seriously some sort of data track they put before track 1. Horrible. The disc won't even play in my CD player. The only way I can get it to play is to put it in my DVD player.

Sckott
06-17-2002, 07:48 PM
This is why copy protection schemes aren't a good idea, no matter how paraniod you are. It's data on the disc that ain't music, and can confuse the bejessus out of some older CDP's. What's the point if you can't listen to the damn thing?

Return it to the store, and ask for another copy. With receipt, they can't baulk.

krabapple
06-18-2002, 08:07 AM
Originally posted by AKA
It's seriously some sort of data track they put before track 1. Horrible. The disc won't even play in my CD player. The only way I can get it to play is to put it in my DVD player.

The 'crack' for copy protected CDs was made public some weeks ago
in a series of embarrassing (for record companies) news articles.
Some kid figured out an easy way to defeat it using a black magic marker. There was a thread about it on this forum too.

see:

http://www.extremetech.com/article/0,3396,s=25209&a=27255,00.asp

RetroSmith
06-18-2002, 08:11 AM
Yes, but that "crack" doesnt work on all copy protected Cds...only on some of them.


And you can bet all new releases will feature a different type of CP that cant be defeated with a black sharpie.....


When will the record labels learn?? Their sales are down because theor music stinks!!! No amount of copy protection is going to change that.


Just in case anyone from the majors is reading this, be advised:

I will NOT purchase ANY CD that is copy protected. No way, no how. i'll get the music a different way.

Issue the Cd without Cp and I will buy it, Simple as that.

mcow1
06-18-2002, 08:26 AM
Originally posted by mikey5967

Just in case anyone from the majors is reading this, be advised:

I will NOT purchase ANY CD that is copy protected. No way, no how. i'll get the music a different way.

Issue the Cd without Cp and I will buy it, Simple as that.
I'll second that

Richard Feirstein
06-18-2002, 08:44 AM
Unless the vender tells you up front you have no way of knowing unless you try. There are many different approaches. Some stop you from playing the disk in a CD-R player, some stop you from making a copy in a CD-R player, some introduce clicks into the audio during the copying process. I have one free Bob Dylan disk Sony gave away to fans that apparently has the click feature. I don't know of many or even any commercial releases introduced into the North American market; most seem to have been introduced in a trial in some Asian and European markets.

AKA
06-18-2002, 06:54 PM
Question: if one copy of Joey Ramone's "Don't Worry About Me" is copy-proofed, does that mean all of them are? If so, will Barnes & Noble rescind its return policy, since I obviously wasn't able to copy the CD and don't pose much of a threat to violate federal laws? I still do have the receipt.

Discuss, dammit, discuss.

Michael
06-18-2002, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by AKA
Will my computer try to read it, or will it just act like there's no CD in the drive at all? My computer is currently doing the latter, and the disc in question is Joey Ramone's "Don't Worry About Me."

Did you try to copy it?

AKA
06-18-2002, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by Michael


Did you try to copy it?

No, I just tried listening to it on my computer. As it stands right now, the only way I can listen to it is on my DVD player or on my car stereo.

Michael
06-18-2002, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by AKA


No, I just tried listening to it on my computer. As it stands right now, the only way I can listen to it is on my DVD player or on my car stereo.

I'd return it immediately! Remember it's not the retailers fault. If your nice, You should have no problem. I'm sure they will understand the problem.

Paul C.
06-23-2002, 06:57 PM
There's a freeware program called ClonyXXL that identifies all sorts of protections on CDs and CD-ROMs. I think it is pretty up to date as far as audio CDs go. Go to this page:
http://home.arcor.de/bejot/