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Can anyone here recommend a good sounding cd version of this album?
Sckott
06-12-2002, 11:06 PM
The newest issue, 6E 113-2 is an RE-1 with a sonic improvement on it or two.
...And how does it sound Sckott?;)
Sckott
06-12-2002, 11:22 PM
Sounds same as the "Forever Young" (I believe) JPN counterpart (WPCR series). If you don't want to spend the money, I believe the RE-1's are newest in the bins. I still own the 1st issue 113.
Hmmm Sounds like I should probably save the dollars and get the RE-1. Thanks man.
Sckott, any ideas on where I can obtain this one? I've tried at least a dozen different on-line stores and no luck so far...
Grant
06-13-2002, 12:58 AM
I prefer the original CD issue. I bought the HDCD remaster and it sounded like someone used noise reduction on it undecoded (I didn't have a player with HDCD), so I got rid of it and kept the original.
Grant, is the RE-1 the HDCD disc that you speak of and is the original the 1991 release?
Grant
06-13-2002, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by Dave
Grant, is the RE-1 the HDCD disc that you speak of and is the original the 1991 release?
No. The HDCD remaster came out around 1996. Well, I have the original right here:
E2-113
6E-113-2
CD remastering by Greg Ladanyi
Asylum Records
Made in USA by WEA Manufacturing
Michael
06-13-2002, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by Sckott
Sounds same as the "Forever Young" (I believe) JPN counterpart (WPCR series). If you don't want to spend the money, I believe the RE-1's are newest in the bins. I still own the 1st issue 113.
Sounds like a definite buy.
Tullman
06-13-2002, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by Sckott
The newest issue, 6E 113-2 is an RE-1 with a sonic improvement on it or two.
What is a RE-1?? Why isn't it at Amazon?
They still have the 1990 version at Amazon.
Where Do I get the new version?
Sckott
06-13-2002, 08:00 AM
Why do you think I never upgraded my copy? :rolleyes: :p
Terry
06-13-2002, 08:57 AM
I'm waiting for the DVD-A, which will arrive in a few weeks.
JohnT
06-13-2002, 09:03 AM
Don't know any details about this, but I think a dvd-a is on the way.
Craig
06-13-2002, 08:50 PM
The Jackson Browne U.S. remasters were never released as HDCD. They may have had a sticker that said so, but they weren't. The remasters that were put out (through Hold Out) can only be identified by looking for the RE-1 on the inner ring. The catalog numbers and artwork are identical to the original releases. They even still have the first album mistitled on the spine and disc as Saturate Before Using instead of the correct title which is just Jackson Browne. If you ordered the disc today, most likely you'd get the remaster. To my ears, they all sounded better that the originals. I didn't get the remastered Late For The Sky or The Pretender because I have the DCC versions.
Steve Hoffman
06-13-2002, 09:17 PM
Fans, be aware that some J.B. CD remasters have added digital echo.
Watch out!!! :(
Todd Fredericks
06-13-2002, 09:23 PM
Fans, be aware that some J.B. CD remasters have added digital echo.
Here's a quote from a great movie (if you don't know which one then shame on you) "Runaway, runaway"...
But seriously, why add digital echo? What the heck are these guys doing?
Todd
Holy Zoo
06-13-2002, 10:01 PM
Steve Hoffman
06-13-2002, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by Todd Fredericks
But seriously, why add digital echo? What the heck are these guys doing?
Todd
Todd,
Revisionist history. The early Jackson B. stuff was mixed pretty dry (which I like). In this "digital wet" world, they turned the Lexicon echo-maker on to give the old mixes that "ZZ Top Remix fake reverb sound" which I really dislike.
So.......Buyer beware!
Claviusb
06-13-2002, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by Holy Zoo
http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/avatar.php?userid=28&dateline=1023592237
Craig! Excellent!!!!
:D :D :D
Yes, Craig got the requisite number of points right too. (nine)
Michael
06-13-2002, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Steve Hoffman
Todd,
Revisionist history. The early Jackson B. stuff was mixed pretty dry (which I like). In this "digital wet" world, they turned the Lexicon echo-maker on to give the old mixes that "ZZ Top Remix fake reverb sound" which I really dislike.
So.......Buyer beware!
Steve,
Thanks for the tip! Off the buy list.
Beagle
06-14-2002, 06:38 AM
Should warning stickers be mandatory on remastered CD's?
Like the way you see "Allergy allert: May contain traces of nuts" on food packages?
"Audiophile alert: May definitely contain large traces of compression and added echo"
Does anyone know where the alternate version of "For A Dancer" came from? I'm talking about the one found of the "Retrospective" promo CD and possibly the older "Late For the Sky." You can tell immediately that it's a different mix/performance because right off the bat, there's a hi-hat that wasn't there before, an Jackson Browne's voice sounds farther away and drenched in echo. Despite the echo, it sounds like Browne's vocals also came from a different take (or possibly the whole track was taken from a different take or takes).
Craig
06-14-2002, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by Dave
Steve, or anyone is this the remastered or the original?
http://store.acousticsounds.com/store.cfm?Title_ID=1435&do=detail
Hard to tell Dave. Since the catalog numbers are the same it would probably be the remastered version unless they had some leftover stock of the original. The only way you can tell is to look for the RE-1 on the inner ring. Time to hit the used CD stores if you want to be sure.
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