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Steve Hoffman
06-09-2002, 10:12 AM
Check THIS out:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20020609/ap_wo_en_ge/britain_people_jagger_1

Andrew
06-09-2002, 12:26 PM
Could Ozzy Osbourne and John Lydon be next in line?

Steve Hoffman
06-09-2002, 12:27 PM
Nothing would surprise me now.

ArneW
06-09-2002, 12:45 PM
As they told us in the news in Germany, it's not the queen anymore who decides about knighthoods - it's the government, actually.

Arne

Tullman
06-09-2002, 01:56 PM
I thought Knights were men of honor. With all of the illegitimate children Mick has, I hardly think he is honorable.

Terry
06-09-2002, 02:56 PM
Come on, Tullman. No child is illegitimate. As for knights being
of some high moral order, you might want to brush up on your history.

Michael
06-09-2002, 06:59 PM
Originally posted by Andrew
Could Ozzy Osbourne and John Lydon be next in line?

Why not? It just a popularity contest anyway. Much like to see Johnny than Elton. Give me A break! Just dilutes the whole "Knight" realm.

Uncle Al
06-09-2002, 07:18 PM
I've got a few bucks - how can you get one of these knighthoods anyway? I really haven't done many "vain" things in my life, but "Sir Aluminum" sounds pretty good to me. Or should that be "Sir Aluminium"?

Tullman
06-10-2002, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by Terry
Come on, Tullman. No child is illegitimate. As for knights being
of some high moral order, you might want to brush up on your history.

A child is illegitimate if I'm paying for the child's upbringing with my taxes, which I know isn't the case with Jagger. Sorry for not being PC.

Matt
06-10-2002, 08:37 AM
What's the criteria for getting knighted, anyway? Is it similar to getting an MBE, like the Beatles (and didn't that happen partially because of the enormous amount of taxes, like 95% of their income, they paid to the government)?

dwmann
06-10-2002, 09:06 AM
In the early 1990s I read an interview with Pete Townsend where he was discussing the punk movement in general and the song "The Punk Meets the Godfather" on Quadrophenia in particular. He said that he had been very interested in the punk movement, and continued to be involved with those who made that type of music and had that type of outlook, because he thought it was a natural extension of where The Who and other mid-sixties British bands were coming from. he said that he had been, and still was, often accused of selling out to the establishment, which was something he had tried to address in "The Punk Meets the Godfather," and that in his own mind he had never really changed at all, just matured. He said his attitude towards the world and what had been "the establishment" had never really changed that much, but that it was no longer possible for him to consider himself an angry ousider looking in, because, as he put it, "What they can't seem to understand is that now I AM the establishment. I'm the one the lords and ladies come to when they need money for their charities."

I don't really think it's all that suprising that people like McCartney and Jagger are being knighted, because even though they have for the most part flaunted convention and done whatever they wanted to do, were part of the sixties drug movement, have been arrested, etc., they have been very successful at what they do for a LONG time, have made a LOT of money, and paid a LOT of taxes. As Townsend said, they ARE the establishment. That may be ironic, but it's not suprising.

Beagle
06-10-2002, 11:01 AM
I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with it, when taken in context. These rock stars may have had some run-ins with the law and may not (in absolute terms) exactly be prime examples for children or teens. But governments and leaders are not exactly straight laced either, many are guilty of corruption and underhandedness, yet they have statues erected in their honor or streets or places named after them. Knighthood in the terms of the word today would probably be honoring someone for what they meant to the public. And as mentioned, they did contribute a lot to the economy.