Rush

[Dave]

Choose as many at one time as you like. Please excuse the rudimentary style as this is my first. Thanks gang:D

[Holy Zoo]

Wow! That's one heckuva lot of albums! I (amazingly) have them all, guess I never counted them all up before.

Anyways, I voted, but strangly, I got an error saying that my session was invalid, and I had to try a second time. If anyone else gets this, can you please let me know (please send a private message instead of posting here).

HZ

[pigmode]

RushMeister, I voted for Permannent Waves. Hey!! It's in a three way tie for the lead with a whopping 9.68%!

OMG! There is an eight way tie for second, each with 6.45%. This is gonna be close! :D :D

[AudioGirl]

Geeze, I handn't realized they had released THAT many albums!

I voted for Fly By Night and 2112...

[Holy Zoo]

I personally think that Presto and Roll the Bones need remastered in the worst way - both of them sound very harsh/shrill to my ears.

[Dave]

Believe it or not my favourite album is Grace Under Pressure as I think that it has the best instrument playing of all their albums.;)

[Drew]

hmm... I've heard quite a few people say that they really like Grace Under Pressure, but I always thought Geddy Lee's bass took a big dive on this album.


But I've had every Rush album the since this one the day it was released, except A Show of Hands because I was in the U.S. Army playing war games at the time.

I thought Power Windows was a more consistent effort, but they also had a fourth person in the studio playing keyboards.

[Gary]

These guys have a lot of albums, don't they? They are mixing down their latest effort now. It should be released in April.

[pigmode]

I thought the way he jammed on the song Subdivisions was very good. You rarely hear that from a rock bassist.

[Dave]

Styemaster you should see him play live. He's definately in the top 5 on the planet.;)

[Sckott]

The 1st Rush album has a lot of hard rock class that is rarely heard in anything except some early Thin Lizzy and Led Zeppelin. I love Rush, but time and time again, thier 1st album is highly underrated, not only for the music, but the sound.

Talk about artsy compression? (re: another thread) Listen to "Working Man" fairly loud. It's like bottle-pressure compression and works quite well for the sound. :D

[YaQuin]

Originally posted by Holy Zoo
I personally think that Presto and Roll the Bones need remastered in the worst way - both of them sound very harsh/shrill to my ears.

Holy Holy,

I agree wholeheartedly. These two albums have great music, but something was lost in the mastering. They both sound really thin. I bet Steve H. could 'fill out' the midrange on both of them. Steve please remaster them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Please?!:(

[Drew]

You know, I hear this a lot about these two albums and I agree to some degree (especially Presto) but you have to remember that Alex Lifeson was using a Paul Reed Smith guitar on these which has a real lean sound to me. On Counterparts he pulled out the Gibson for the first time since the 70's which has a meatier guitar sound.

I remember the first time I heard the song Double Agent off of Counterparts a thought it was the most butt kicking Rush song I'd heard in a long while (and I'm a big Rush fan), especially the harmonics in the guitar solo. I wonder what some serious tube remastering would do to that.





...Which one will lose depends on what I chose
Or maybe which voice I ignore...

[Holy Zoo]

Originally posted by Drew
You know, I hear this a lot about these two albums and I agree to some degree (especially Presto) but you have to remember that Alex Lifeson was using a Paul Reed Smith guitar on these which has a real lean sound to me. On Counterparts he pulled out the Gibson for the first time since the 70's which has a meatier guitar sound.

I agree about Counterparts being a much more kick-*** sound, however I don't think it's the Paul Reed Smith that caused the thin sound on Presto/RTB.

I own a Paul Reed Smith, and it can get a very solid Gibson chunk sound.

In fact, here's a song my brother recorded using both my Paul Reed Smith and my Roland GP100 preamp:

http://www.negativebliss.com/audio/HolyZoo-WhoAreYou-RoughMix.mp3

Skip to the last minute of the song (or any of the choruses), and see if you hear a similiarity to to the chunky sound Lifeson gets on "Stick It Out".

[YaQuin]

Thanks Zoo for the free mp3. Sounds a bit like the group Alice In Chains. Chunky sound alright, but I believe that a 128 kb/s mp3 doesn't really do this song as much justice as it could. Can you burn a 320 kb/s version?

If this is one of the components Alex used on Presto or Roll The Bones, why do those recordings sound the way they do?

Thanks.

[Holy Zoo]

WRT Roll the Bones, it could be many things: the producer/recording engineer. The studio. Could be the guitar amp. Could be that they liked that sound! :)

About the zoo song, sorry - I only have this at 128. I'll ask my brother if he can shoot me over one at 320. I'll let ya know!