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Pat
05-02-2002, 05:55 PM
Check it out!

Rolling Stones to Announce New Tour Next Tuesday
Updated 5:53 PM ET May 2, 2002

By Dean Goodman

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - The Rolling Stones plan to drop in from the sky next week to announce their first tour in three years, a U.S. government official said on Thursday.

The veteran British rockers will commandeer a blimp and cruise into Van Cortlandt Park, New York City's third largest park, in the northwestern Bronx, on Tuesday at about 12:45 p.m. EDT. The site's wide open spaces, used for football and cricket matches, make it a practical landing area.

An official at the Federal Aviation Administration told Reuters that Stones operatives had sought permission ``and we're trying to accommodate that request,'' although he did not think there would be a problem. Stones publicist Fran Curtis declined to comment about the blimp plan as did city park officials.

Similarly, details of the North American tour are being kept under wraps. Unconfirmed speculation has focused on a tour of indoor arenas in the fall. Gary Bongiovanni, editor of concert trade publication Pollstar, said indoor shows are more lucrative than stadiums as overhead is lower and groups can charge higher prices to patrons who prefer more comfortable surroundings.

Three of the highest-grossing North American tours of all time were undertaken in stadiums by the Stones, including the top-ranked 1994 ``Voodoo Lounge'' road show, which grossed $121.2 million. Bongiovanni expected the 2002 tour to be the biggest of the year assuming the Stones play enough dates.

This year, veteran acts such as Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, the Billy Joel-Elton John pairing and Paul McCartney have enjoyed strong ticket sales.


NOT AN ANNIVERSARY TOUR

The Stones last toured in 1997-1999, playing their last show in the German city of Cologne in June. Since then, singer Mick Jagger has issued a solo record and produced a movie, the new World War II thriller ``Enigma.'' Guitarist Ron Wood and drummer Charlie Watts have also released albums, while guitarist Keith Richards has been tinkering in his basement studio, and attending movie premieres and tennis matches.

The tour will coincide with the 40th anniversary of the Stones' first public performance -- but don't call it a 40th anniversary tour. Stones officials noted that the lineup at the group's first show, July 12, 1962 in London's Marquee Club, was slightly different and that Watts did not join until 1963.

The Rolling Stones are not expected to release a new studio album to coincide with the tour. Instead, they will reportedly issue a retrospective with a handful of new tracks. Officials at their Virgin Records label -- a unit of Britain's EMI Group Plc -- referred calls to Curtis, who declined comment.

Sources, however, said privately held ABKCO Records, which controls the copyrights from the Stones' 1960s heyday, planned to reissue digitally remastered and repackaged versions of their early albums in both the American and long-deleted U.K. formats.

Grand tour announcements in New York are a tradition for the Rolling Stones. In 1975, they brought traffic to a standstill by playing ``Brown Sugar'' from the back of a truck. In 1989, they detailed that year's tour during a sweaty news conference from a train in Grand Central Station.



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COMMENTS:

Concert ticket sales are up (while CD sales are DOWN!)... Hmmmm, maybe the general public has to choose between buying a CD by "Flavor of The Day" or going to see a classic performer in concert. Maybe a "little" connection there?!


It will be interesting to see what the "latest" ABKCO releases sound like this time. Mono & Stereo? Better (lower) generation tapes hopefully!

We shall see what we shall see!

Sckott
05-02-2002, 06:20 PM
Man, I hate to be a party pooper, but I'll believe it when I see it (ABKCO). Glad to hear someone's promising it still! :rolleyes:

lukpac
05-02-2002, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Pat
It will be interesting to see what the "latest" ABKCO releases sound like this time. Mono & Stereo? Better (lower) generation tapes hopefully!

This is all through the grapevine, but a little birdie told me Jon Astley has been pegged to "remaster" the catalog...

No, I'm not kidding.

mcow1
05-02-2002, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by lukpac


This is all through the grapevine, but a little birdie told me Jon Astley has been pegged to "remaster" the catalog...

No, I'm not kidding.

Crap!

Dave
05-02-2002, 10:03 PM
Double Crap! I wonder how many more assaults on our hearing are going to have to happen before someone wrestles "Mr. D.A.F.T." away from the mixing console.

"Deaf as a freakin' tree".:rolleyes:

Joel Cairo
05-02-2002, 10:12 PM
Befroe you say "Crap" about Astley having his way with these, just keep in mind that:

a) **we** are smart enough not to buy them, and

b) since many other people **will**, the chances are very good that the reappearance of the British-format discs will shake loose quite a number of the old ones into the marketplace, while simultaneously drive down their prices, which nicely increases our chances of completing our collections.

...Man, am I cynical, or **what**?? :D

-Kevin

Shoes4Industry
05-03-2002, 08:52 AM
How good could these ABKCO CDs sound? Weren't the masters destroyed?

Beagle
05-03-2002, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by lukpac


This is all through the grapevine, but a little birdie told me Jon Astley has been pegged to "remaster" the catalog...

No, I'm not kidding. Please, no. Not him. Anyone but him. If this is true they will have to rename the albums too...

-Aftermess
-Their Satanic Majesties Compression
-Between The Bassboosts
-Let My Ears Bleed
-December's Chills
-Beggars Bankrupt
-Cold Rocks I & II
-Englands Newest Butchered Remasters
-Got Screeching Highs (If You Want Them)
-Get Yer Ear-Plugs Out

Matt
05-03-2002, 10:40 AM
Originally posted by lukpac


This is all through the grapevine, but a little birdie told me Jon Astley has been pegged to "remaster" the catalog...

No, I'm not kidding.

This TOTALLY sucks! Honestly, there should be some sort of reference guide out there for reissue projects on who to contact and who NOT to contact! Sort of like a Michelin and Zagat's guide but for mastering engineers and reissue producers.

Steve: ****
Bernie Grundman: ****

DigiPrep: **1/2

Jon Astley: zero!
Peter Mew: zero!

snowman
05-03-2002, 10:56 AM
The Astley Dire Straits remasters sound awsome.

hoboken lad
05-03-2002, 11:00 AM
FYI,

On another website, for Hits Magazine (a music industry trade publication), it stated as a RUMOR (let me repeat, RUMOR) that this proposed box set would include material from Decca/London/ABKCO as well as Atlantic/Columbia/Virgin recordings. I.E., it seems to be a career spanning box set.

Which begs the question, do the Stones have better tapes for the 60's material than ABKCO does? And if the Stones HAVE better tapes, would they release them to ABKCO for their reissue for 60's material?

As an aside, I worked tangentally with a company that 'consulted' the Stones on their Steel Wheels tour in 1989. At that time, meetings were held between ABKCO and representatives of the Stones on coordinating a re-release of 1960's Stones' recordings, including some previously unreleased material. Nothing became of this (obviously), but I know that Mick has a long memory and possibly has opened renegociations. So maybe something good will come with the proposed ABKCO re-masters.

Then again, the Jon Astley rumor concerns me, although I will admit he HAS done some good releases. Just don't let him remix anything.

How about SH for a compromise??

Beagle
05-03-2002, 11:01 AM
Originally posted by snowman
The Astley Dire Straits remasters sound awsome. I thought Bob Ludwig did those with SBM?

Dave
05-03-2002, 11:09 AM
Beagle,

You are totally correct sir. I just checked my BIA remaster and it is Bob Ludwig using SBM. BTW the JVC XRCD isn't all it's supposed to be compared to the Ludwig version.;)

Gary
05-03-2002, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Matt

Steve: ****
Bernie Grundman: ****

DigiPrep: **1/2

Jon Astley: zero!
Peter Mew: zero!

I'm quite suprised at you, Matt. But I guess it's not your fault that negative numbers are not on the rating system. :(

Actually I'd consider Astley a 1/2 and Mew a zero. The lesser of two evils type of thing....

Gawd I just had an awful thought! Could there come a day where we are scrambling for original ABKCO releases!?!? I think I'm gonna be sick..... :eek:

mcow1
05-03-2002, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by Gary


Gawd I just had an awful thought! Could there come a day where we are scrambling for original ABKCO releases!?!? I think I'm gonna be sick..... :eek:

Now that's just too scary to think about.

lukpac
05-03-2002, 03:14 PM
Originally posted by Gary
Actually I'd consider Astley a 1/2 and Mew a zero. The lesser of two evils type of thing....

Hell no. Astley is a million times worse than Mew. At least with Mew the sound of the NR is plainly obvious. Listen to the "remastered" The Kids Are Alright. The sound of the NR is just terrible - very obvious. Harsh as hell.

lukpac
05-03-2002, 03:18 PM
Originally posted by hoboken lad
Which begs the question, do the Stones have better tapes for the 60's material than ABKCO does? And if the Stones HAVE better tapes, would they release them to ABKCO for their reissue for 60's material?

I don't *think* so. As far as I know, ABKCO was given all the Stones tapes that were in the Polygram vaults. Now, I believe they gave an order to Polygram to trash all multitracks, but I think some folks at Polygram actually kept them (although probably not in the vaults themselves).

Anyone know more?

jason r. baur
05-04-2002, 07:10 AM
So, as I understand it, Peter Mew is the prime candidate to re-Mew-ster The Beatles, and Jon Astley is first in line to do (and I do mean "do") the Stones.

I don't think I want to keep living.

Pat
05-04-2002, 01:28 PM
I'm gonna stay OPTOMISTIC and hope (pray?) that Astley is NOT the "chosen one" for this job...but even if he does get the nod, we can HOPE that (at least) he will start with better tapes than we've heard before. Also, I'm NOT sure what they mean (in article above) about US and UK versions being released (In one package?...or, one version for each country respectively?).

Everyone should now say 3 Hail Mary's! ;)

jason r. baur
05-04-2002, 01:34 PM
Pat, you think if Astley only remasters instead of remixing (does he have any choice in this case?), the result will be better than what's out there now? I sure hope so!

Pat
05-04-2002, 02:22 PM
Jason,

I just think that it won't be ALL that bad (even with dreaded No noise tinkering...gasp!) if he (Astley...gasp!) is able to start with someting closer to the first generation tapes (If that is even possible)! Somehow, I think better tapes are out there in the case of Rolling Stones material.

lukpac
05-04-2002, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by jason r. baur
Pat, you think if Astley only remasters instead of remixing (does he have any choice in this case?), the result will be better than what's out there now? I sure hope so!

Some of what's out there now really isn't that terrible...

Astley has never done a remix, just a remaster. If anything is remixed he has someone else do it.

Pat
05-04-2002, 05:03 PM
Remember, that Steve ONLY remastered the Who's Next album for compact disc, and look how that turned out. ;)

Of course, I do a great injustice to Steve, comparing his talent to Ghastly's...er Astley's!

jason r. baur
05-05-2002, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by lukpac


Some of what's out there now really isn't that terrible...

You're right about that. But the difference in sound between the individual ABKCO CDs is HUGE! Some sound kinda muddy, others kill your ears with treble, etc. Even within a single CD (Beggar's Banquet, for instance) the difference in sound between songs is maddening!

Ben
05-05-2002, 11:02 AM
Why Worry?

I have the MFSL LP Box Set...I just rip the songs I want to a CD and go...

Have Sticky Fingers, Some Girls, Exile, Goats Head on heavy vinyl from various sources...excellent issues...

Pretty much everything else forward from that is crap - no matter who issued it...Keith and Mick were done by 1978...it's all nostalgia from there....


Best,

Ben