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HeavyDistortion
04-23-2002, 08:27 AM
I would like to hear any opinions on the best possible CD version of The Moody Blues' "Every Good Boy Deserves Favor". I searched the forum the other day for any hints about Moody Blues CDs, but couldn't find any specific information about this particular release. Any and all information will be appreciated greatly.



Thanks,

HeavyDistortion

mcow1
04-23-2002, 08:59 AM
My favorite was the MFSL version. I didn't like the remasters, they seemes like a different mix where parts of the music which I was used to having up front was missing or buried so the music did not sound right.

Sckott
04-23-2002, 09:01 AM
I've got both MFSL LP and CD. Both are very good, hard to beat. Someone told me there was a German "Threshold" pressing of "Favor" that was amazing, but I haven't tried it. I recently found a USA/London/Threshold and I wasn't that impressed with it.

YaQuin
04-23-2002, 09:04 AM
The lushness of the sound and richness of the midrange on the MFSL CD cannot be beat. The silver remasters are good, but kindof "empty" sounding in the midrange. I have the UD II version and it is completely awesome. Especially "My Song"

reidc
04-23-2002, 09:18 AM
Its been a while since I've listened, but a have a recent Japanese issue in the Mini-LP format CD. I don't believe any remastering was done for the release, so its probably whatever existed in Japan.

I don't believe it can hold a candle to my MFSL rip(sorry Gary!!) The MFSL sounds so much fuller and more mid-range.


Chris

BTW- the balance of the Moody Blues catalogue will be released in the next few weeks(if it hasn't already) should anyone want the mini-lp format. To date only Every Good Boy and Seventh Sojourn have been available. IMHO- Seventh Sojourn sounds real good- although I don't have another to compare it to.

HeavyDistortion
04-23-2002, 09:24 AM
Everyone,

Thanks for your prompt replies. It looks like I should try to find the MFSL version.





HeavyDistortion

reidc
04-23-2002, 09:31 AM
Hey Heavy!
Back when I was looking for Moody's titles on MFSL(doing the Ebay bendover)- Every Good Boy was not one of the higher priced Moody's titles.

Seventh Sojourn and A Question of Balance, and Children's Children were selling for $55-$60 up to $95-$100 for sealed. It seems some guy going by "CarolinaDood" was bidding for many of them.

Every GoodBoy and Threshold were more reasonable- around $25- $35 at that time.

Good Luck!

HeavyDistortion
04-23-2002, 09:38 AM
reidc,

Thanks for the tip. From the little searching that I've done so far, it appears that the EGBDF MFSL disc can be had for a reasonable price.



HeavyDistortion

reidc
04-23-2002, 09:47 AM
Actually- I just noticed you were from Baltimore- one of my favorite big cities! I really hope to get back there soon.

You might want to check Record and Tape Traders(YodelinPig!). I just bought a used Venus and Mars from them, and I know they take in a whole lotta stuff.


Chris

HeavyDistortion
04-23-2002, 11:06 AM
reidc,

I only live 10 minutes away from the main Traders store in Towson, and frequent it very often. They have a great turnover of used CDs, so I'm always checking their stock.



HeavyDistortion

Dave
04-23-2002, 11:12 AM
Gentlemen,

I do agree that the MFSL's shine far brighter than any reissue....so far. It's just a cryin' shame that MFSL used ye ol' smiley face eq. on them.:(

stereo71
04-23-2002, 07:40 PM
Hi Everyone,

I have probably spent more hours listening to the
Moody Blues than anything else I own. I still say
this, even though most of this listening (to the
Moodys) was years ago. From the release of "Days
of Future Passed" on, I was hooked, and bought each
LP as it was released...up to "Seventh Sojourn", at
least. When CDs first came out, I vividly recall
getting a copy of "Question of Balance", and almost
throwing it in the trash after a couple of spins.
It wasn't so much the harshness that got to me, as
the mix. To my ears, it was radically different--
most obviously on "Question"--I won't bore you with
the details. I fell back to playing my high-mileage
LPs, clicks, pops, and all.

Now, I don't mean to bash the digital format here.
I have many of both formats that sound "right" to me.
The problem I have with all these reissues, especially
of the Moody Blues, lies with all the different versions
out there, and with my memory of the listening
experiences playing the original LPs. For better or
worse, I'm 'programmed', for lack of a better description,
with the orignials. I have never heard any version of
DOFP sound musically better than that old Deram/Decca
pressing from the late 60s--and I have tried many copies,
LP and CD. The only MOFI I ventured into was "Threshold",
and it wasn't that impressive (maybe because it was one
of the UD II). I did get the MOFI LP of this one, and I
must admit it is pretty good--even has the authentic live
exit grooves; you diehard Moodys fans know what I mean here.

Okay, I'll wind this up: for me, this search for a "better
sounding" version of music I was very familiar with was not
successful. I realize some listeners out there haven't been
down this road from the beginning; everyone's journey is
indexed differently, and therefore is incomparable to another's.
So which are the best sounding versions? Of EGBDF, in particular?
I'm going to vote for the orignal LPs...if all we had to compare
were different issues of this same mix. But, in the case of
the Moody Blues, I believe it's an apples and oranges and maybe
even a-fruit-to-be-named-later thing. I'm not enough of an
expert to say if they've been remixed more than the Beatles, but
it wouldn't surprise me.

Now, if only we could somehow get those master tapes into Steve's
hands...I for one would give it another try! And I'll bet the
results would be outstanding!

audiodrome
04-23-2002, 08:14 PM
They actually even used some different mixes on all of the DOFP CDs from day one. I remember asking ICE about this in CD Watchdog. Especially check out "Evening: Time To Get Away" - all the backing vocals are missing. It sure as hell doesn't sound like that on my LP. I can't remember ICE's response exactly - I'll have to dig out my copy from way back but it had something to do with that those are the only tapes that exist now. The original LP masters are gone. Don't quote me on that - I'm relying on my memory from about 8 years ago at least. I'll find that issue and check back...

David R. Modny
04-23-2002, 08:19 PM
Derek Varnels remixed the album in the 70's, due to the deterioration of the original two-track master. Hence, the differences on that, Peak Hour, etc...

stereo71
04-23-2002, 08:23 PM
Anyone have that pressing from (I believe) Speaker's
Corner? At least TP says it's good. Wonder which
mix they used?

wes
04-23-2002, 08:24 PM
The gold Mofi version is the one I have, and the only one that I've heard............It's very lush..........too lush on my system.....because my system is aready really lush, which makes this album turn to mush.......:(

-Wes

pdenny
04-23-2002, 09:43 PM
Re Seventh Sojourn (not that that was the topic ;-):

I have the MFSL LP. Very nice...warm, clear and not boxy/muddled like the silver CD's.

But....the DTS CD is a jaw-dropper. One listen to Ray Thomas' flute in the opening strains of "The Land of Make Believe" and you'll never be able to hear any other version again. I've been playing this record for over 25 years and it was like the proverbial veil lifting. Wow.

Now if we can get decent remasters of THE PRESENT and OCTAVE I could die a happy man!

mcow1
04-23-2002, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by stereo71
Anyone have that pressing from (I believe) Speaker's
Corner? At least TP says it's good. Wonder which
mix they used?

The Speaker's Corner does sound great. Beats the pants off any cd version I ever heard. Although I haven't compared it to the original lp.

Sckott
04-24-2002, 06:51 AM
The original Decca (UK) and London/Deram (US) issues don't hold a candle to the Speaks Corner issue. It was done well. Excellent pressing.

But the comments on Seventh Sojourn (DTS) were right on, as I own that and the DOFP on DTS. Both should not be missed. Not sure if they're out of print now....?

mcow1
04-24-2002, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by Sckott
But the comments on Seventh Sojourn (DTS) were right on, as I own that and the DOFP on DTS. Both should not be missed. Not sure if they're out of print now....?

Definitely agree with Sckott here. These titles may still be available athttp://www.dvdplanet.com but the search function doesn't work well for dts just have to browse thru the pages

audiodrome
04-25-2002, 11:22 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by pdenny
[B]Re Seventh Sojourn (not that that was the topic ;-):

But....the DTS CD is a jaw-dropper. One listen to Ray Thomas' flute in the opening strains of "The Land of Make Believe" and you'll never be able to hear any other version again. I've been playing this record for over 25 years and it was like the proverbial veil lifting. Wow.

Thanks for the tip. I just ordered these two from dvd planet. I think they may be out of print or close to it. Alot of other places don't have them. I don't have a surround set up yet but I might as well stock pile some of the good ones while they are still in print. How do they sound on a regular CD player? Also what is the Speakers Corner version of DOFP - never heard of it.

Paul

mcow1
04-25-2002, 11:36 AM
Originally posted by audiodrome
[QUOTE]Originally posted by pdenny
[B]Re Seventh Sojourn (not that that was the topic ;-):

How do they sound on a regular CD player? Also what is the Speakers Corner version of DOFP - never heard of it.

Paul
CD players, at least none I've seen, don't have DTS therefore can't play 'em. The Speaker's Corner is a 180 gram vinyl version that just sounds great, gives the orchestra a fantastic "full" sound. You'll hear things you never noticed before.

Vivaldinization
04-25-2002, 01:36 PM
Wait wait wait...so the CD mixes of DoFP are alternates? Has the LP mix ever been released on CD?


Anybody willing to CDR that motha if it hasn't?

-D

audiodrome
04-25-2002, 07:59 PM
Is DTS a fleeting technology? I don't want to buy too many of these CDs before I get a surround system only to find out they don't make the decoders anymore... To play these, you basically need a CD Player with a digital out to a DTS decoder into a surround sound receiver, right? Or is their something I'm missing?

Paul