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TommyTunes
12-08-2003, 10:37 AM
I've used a Shure Stylus Force gauge for the last 15 years and decided I wanted something more accurate. Both are audiophiles being taken avantage of?

http://www.amusicdirect.com/products/detail.asp?sku=AEXPESFG

http://www.saveonscales.com/jen.html


Although I didn't order either of these I did order.

http://www.rightonscales.com/web/jcc.htm

Since it was accurate to .05 of a gram

Damián
12-08-2003, 11:20 AM
Tom, do a search for 'digital scale' or post over at the Vinyl Asylum since I've seen many people there turning to garden-variety (ie. non-audiophile) digital scales with apparently good results.

Many have posted pictures as well (some of them added pieces to the scales or modified them to better accommodate a cartridge/stylus).

Best of luck, regards

Damián

audio
12-08-2003, 12:23 PM
I don't think you're anymore well off with that cheap digital scale. The Shure scale is fine. There is nothing to be gained by having any more accuracy than your old stylus scale provides other than peace of mind.

TommyTunes
12-08-2003, 01:28 PM
Originally posted by Damián
Tom, do a search for 'digital scale' or post over at the Vinyl Asylum
Best of luck, regards

Damián

Thanks for the heads up. I did check and apparently you stand a good chance of screwing up a moving coil cartridge if there is magnetic material in the scale. Since my new cartridge has a bunch of warnings in the instruction manual about this. I thought my idea was not so good and canceled my order. Guess I'll be sticking with the Shure for now.

Rivendell61
12-08-2003, 05:27 PM
Tom, I have the Shure Gauge and wondered about how accurate it was, in the sense of reading too high or low.
Rather than buy an expensive 'audiophile' version I got a small 'S' shaped lab weight.
They are super precise. Come in 1gm or 2gm, etc. The weight hooks right into the Shure stylus 'groove'.

Put mine on the Shure and....surprise!: it was EXACTLY on target.

It is an easy way to check and maintain peace of mind:) If it is off you can calibrate the Shure with the weight.

Mark

Damián
12-08-2003, 05:32 PM
This might sound a bit wacky, but do you guys know if a 'times 3 or 'times 4' position could be found on a Shure gauge?

I suspect it'd be a matter of finding the right distance from the 'times 2' groove but I'm not sure about the math that needs to be done.

Anyone?

audio
12-08-2003, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by Damián
This might sound a bit wacky, but do you guys know if a 'times 3 or 'times 4' position could be found on a Shure gauge?

I suspect it'd be a matter of finding the right distance from the 'times 2' groove but I'm not sure about the math that needs to be done.

Anyone?

Damian, you should not track your records at such a weight if you care to preserve them. Is this for a DJ setup? If you are speaking of 4 gram tracking weight, accuracy is unimportant. Just crank the counter weight until you achieve the desired results. For such destructive practices as "scratching", all bets are off in terms of setup. It's totally irrelevant. Also, beware that most cartridges are not designed to handle this.

NOSValves
12-08-2003, 10:40 PM
The thing I would be worried about is the scale not allowing the stylus to be measure at as close as possible to its riding height on the record this will throw the measurement out of tolerance more than anything. If it’s to awful high off the platter the weight will be completely wrong.

Craig

Damián
12-09-2003, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by prix


Damian, you should not track your records at such a weight if you care to preserve them. Is this for a DJ setup? If you are speaking of 4 gram tracking weight, accuracy is unimportant. Just crank the counter weight until you achieve the desired results. For such destructive practices as "scratching", all bets are off in terms of setup. It's totally irrelevant. Also, beware that most cartridges are not designed to handle this.
No, no of course it's not for a DJ setup. It was mostly out of curiosity right now. Thanks for the warning