Jvc cds

[Edge_88]

Is there any Rock cd made by jvc ??

[TimB]

Steve Miller bad "The Joker"
Tina Turner "Private Dancer"

Plus there could be some others, I believe as an import, Dire Straits "Brothers in Arms" may be found!

Also, the entire Credence Clear Water Revival is done on the JVC K2 mastering system, but I believe it is released by Fantasy.

Others may be lurking as well, just waiting to be discovered.

[KLM]

Overall I think the JVX XRCD's are some of the best remastered cds out there. With that said, I was underwhelmed by the Dire Straits "Brothers In Arm" (import only) cd. It's not so much that it doesn't sound great but it's not much better than the standard Dire Straits remaster that was recently done. The cost difference is dramatic and in my opinion not worth the premium. I also have the Steve Miller release and it sounds very good but I don't have anything to compare it to.

[stereo71]

Just picked up the K2 remaster of "Bayou Country"
and not sure what to make of it. There is an
uneveness from track to track, almost like
selective or variable no-noise was applied. But
this is supposed to be an "analog" mastering
process--guess I don't know what the 20bit K2 is
all about and should research it more.

Overall I'd say it's passable, but I now have
a greater appreciation (and anticipation) of the
upcoming vinyl releases from S&G. The vocals
especially must be the hardest to get right, as
Steve has reported here in the forum.

Can't wait to get this again on vinyl!

Sorry!!! S&P Records! Sheesh, I'm not awake
yet...

[MagicAlex]

I was underwhelmed by the Dire Straits "Brothers In Arm" (import only) cd. It's not so much that it doesn't sound great but it's not much better than the standard Dire Straits remaster that was recently done.

Thanks for the heads up on this one. I was close to throwing down $40 for this Japanese import. I believe I'll make a trip to my local record store today instead.

[Kayaker]

I have heard from other boards over the past couple of years that the XRCD "Brothers in Arms" is not a Japanese XRCD, but one made in Hong Kong from second generation tapes.
I am sure someone on this site knows the true story.
I do have and like the Tina Turner XRCD. I got it from Swapit.com for $5 when they were in business. (However, Swapit took about $130 in my trade-in credits when they went under). Does anyone know how the Tina Turner XRCD compares to the new remaster?

[KLM]

I have heard from other boards over the past couple of years that the XRCD "Brothers in Arms" is not a Japanese XRCD, but one made in Hong Kong from second generation tapes.

This is kind of interesting considering this was a FULLY DIGITAL album. My question would be, how would the digital copy be made from the original digital master as well as how much degradation would their be from a digital master to a digital copy? I would think if done correctly a digital copy from a digital master would sound better than a digital copy made from an analog copy.

[SVL]

JVC's K2 process was used for a few remasters of rock albums for CD that were done in Japan. I think they did Uriah Heep's Demons and Wizards - at least the catalog number begins with VIC, which usually stands for JVC/Victor.

[feinstein]

Also, Elvis Presley's 1970's era albums were remastered with K2 in Japan. These K2 remasters were done in 1997. These were released without the bonus tracks that were released in 1999 during the U.S. remaster of these same albums.

I have three of these 1970's era albums. They sound OK (they were pretty badly recorded in the first place under very trying conditions due to Elvis's desire to record "live" at Graceland). In comparison to the later remasters done by Jorgensen and Semon in the U.S., I believe that the later remasters are somewhat better.

[John Carsell]

JVC at one time was planning on doing The Band's self titled album, but the original master tape could not be located. DCC supposedly ran into that same problem too.
As for JVC only doing 2 only two rock tiles, that's always baffled me why?

[GabeG]

The reason XRCD hasn't released any additional rock titiles is simple: they were expensive to license and they didn't sell.

[David Powell]

Originally posted by John Carsell
JVC at one time was planning on doing The Band's self titled album, but the original master tape could not be located. DCC supposedly ran into that same problem too.
As for JVC only doing 2 only two rock tiles, that's always baffled me why?

Methinks perhaps the costs of licensing "rock" tiltles from major labels far outweighs any profitability of doing these reissues. Add this to the fact that most of the major labels are doing their own CD reissue projects for their back-catalog and don't want competing product, especially better sounding ones from specialty labels, out there in the market place.

[Tullman]

I have Steve Miller the Joker and feel that the sound quality is right up there with the best. The Dire straights cd is not as good for whatever reason.

[Edge_88]

A friend of mine has a JVC Cd of Victor Feildman its sounds great its like jazz good vibes and drums

[Dave]

Gentlemen,

You've hit the nail on the head! All the above explanations and reasons are correct. Here's my take.

If in fact the rock JVC's didn't sell well, can someone find one for me because I've been unable to get Tina Turner for over a year, or even 1 dealer in the US. that has both Steve Miller and Tina Turner.

I have both Steve's Steve Miller: Greatest Hits 1974-78 and the XRCD The Joker. Both are good. They are different but I honestly can't say one is outstandingly superior to the other.

The Dire Straits import XRCD is a hair better in the mid-range and high-end but, I don't believe it justifies the massive price increase over the regular version.

[Ronflugelguy]

Dave, did you try JVCs website? Unfortunately, they list them as list price $30+.:(

[Dave]

Do you have a link Ron?

[Ronflugelguy]

I've got to take my son to school. I'll look it up for you later today.

[Dave]

Thanks Ron.;)

[Humorem]

Originally posted by John Carsell
JVC at one time was planning on doing The Band's self titled album, but the original master tape could not be located. DCC supposedly ran into that same problem too.

So they went back to the 16 tracks, remixed it and ruined it. The new CD is wrong wrong wrong.
TP

[David Powell]

As I recall, JVC released several XRCD versions of some blues albums (Jimmie Rogers, Mighty Sam McClain, Robert Lucas & maybe a few others) previously issued on the Audioquest label.

[KLM]

David,
You are correct sir. The JVC XRCD's are just a bit better but keep in mind that these were alreadhy excellent sounding cds as Audioquest does a nice job with their releases.

By the way, the Jimmie Rogers and Mighty Sam McClain as well as others aren't just great sounding but great performances as well and highly recommended.

[Elton]

At CES I ask the JVC rep. why they didn't have more rock titles, and he said that the price of the title and finding the masters were the top two reason they don't do them. They also stated that that they think the process work beter on acoustic (i.e. Jazz, Blues and Classical) music. :(

[emilsjr]

I picked up the Tina Turner disc from elusivedisc.com about 1 month ago.

[czeskleba]

Originally posted by Humorem
So they went back to the 16 tracks, remixed it and ruined it. The new CD is wrong wrong wrong.
TP

Unless I'm mistaken, the current CD remaster of "The Band" is not remixed. It was mastered from a safety copy of the master tape. I am not wild about the sound either. The guy that did it (Dave Hirsch or Dan Hirsch, I forget) always seems to instill kind of a cold, sterile feeling in the stuff he masters.

I think I remember Steve commenting on the old forum that the master tape is not lost but is in the possession of a Band member who refuses to let it be used, due to money disputes. Given what I know about the history, I would guess it's Levon who has it.