Gap removal

[Mr. Winston]

I hope this is the correct forum, so I'll ask this question. I recently obtained a CDR, and the Nut who burned it somehow introduced the dreaded 2 seconds of silence due to Track at Once. Are there any programs where I can edit this gap out and make the concert flow seamless once again?:(

[Holy Zoo]

Mac or PC? :)

On the Mac, Peak can do the job with a few minutes of effort.

On the PC, I presume that Cool Edit can do it as well.

[lv70smusic]

I assume you have your own burner on your computer? If so, just rip the individual audio tracks and then burn a new disc. I use Nero, which allows the user to specify the gap length (in this case, zero) but I assume that most burning software has the same functionality.

[Craig]

For Windows: click on WavTrim (http://www.logiccell.com/~mp3trim/). :)

[Mr. Winston]

I have a HP PC with Musicmatch Jukebox 8.1 and Recordnow 4.56. if that is of help.

[Soundman]

If you rip the tracks from the disc then re-burn them with the DISC AT ONCE option (not TRACK AT ONCE) that should sort the 2 sec. gap. :)

[Damián]

Originally posted by Soundman
If you rip the tracks from the disc then re-burn them with the DISC AT ONCE option (not TRACK AT ONCE) that should sort the 2 sec. gap. :)
Sounds like the best idea. Another one to try could be to use EAC, which will generate a whole-disc WAV file and a CUE file with the track indexes in it. You can edit the CUE file in Notepad, just identify the gaps (it's easy), get them out and then burn the updated CUE and WAV to a new disc in disc-at-once mode using CDRWIN or some other such program.

Let us know if you fix it

[Grant]

When you rip the tracks into the computer with CD Creator, all you do is tell the software to remove the gaps before starting. It isn't perfect, and you may have to use an audio editor th fine tune everything.

I've had this happen to me a few times. It's bad enough when the software makers set the two-second gaps in DAO mode as the default. It's worse when the makers set TAO, or "track at once" as the default mode.

But, I talk with a lot of casual people, and most of them like the two-second gaps, even where they don't belong. Go figure. I remember making a tape for a co-worker many years ago and he wanted five years between the songs.

On the other hand, I made a tape for a friend who wanted me to chop off the fades because he said he "didn't have time" for the fades.

[LtPepper]

Originally posted by Grant

On the other hand, I made a tape for a friend who wanted me to chop off the fades because he said he "didn't have time" for the fades.

Isn't that a Carly Simon song?
"Haven't got time for the fadessssss"
:)

[Craig]

Originally posted by Craig
For Windows: click on WavTrim (http://www.logiccell.com/~mp3trim/). :)

Seriously - WavTrim....... it's Freeware and it works.

[Mr. Winston]

Just downloaded WavTrim, but I am in the middle of final exams at my University, so I'll have to play and install it later.:(

[Casino]

Originally posted by Grant
I remember making a tape for a co-worker many years ago and he wanted five years between the songs.

Wow! Great idea - that way, playing a single tape could last a lifetime.

Originally posted by Grant
On the other hand, I made a tape for a friend who wanted me to chop off the fades because he said he "didn't have time" for the fades.

That's a good one... :p

[Grant]

Originally posted by Casino


That's a good one... :p

No, i'm serious! He said that he played the music low so he couldn't hear the fades anyway, and that he didn't have time to listen to the quiet parts.:sigh:

[misterbozz]

If you're talking about a live show or a prog rock album which requires 'seamless' track changes, wavtrim will NOT do the job accurately, but create clicks or minigaps. Save yourself a CD-R.

I don't know if simply re-extracting and doing DAO will do the job as the silence will be appended to the end of the track. Depends on the

The only surefire and 100% accurate way I have found is going into the waveforms in Soundforge or other editing program and manually cut out the silence.

[Grant]

Originally posted by misterbozz
If you're talking about a live show or a prog rock album which requires 'seamless' track changes, wavtrim will NOT do the job accurately, but create clicks or minigaps. Save yourself a CD-R.

I don't have Wavetrim, and have never used it, but the reason is most likely because zero-crossings don't match. The program probably does not deal with it.

I don't know if simply re-extracting and doing DAO will do the job as the silence will be appended to the end of the track.

It shouldn't if you use the right software configured properly...

The only surefire and 100% accurate way I have found is going into the waveforms in Soundforge or other editing program and manually cut out the silence.

Same here, and even that doesn't always work as it should if the songs are edited tightly.