Q re: Plastic Ono Band on CD

[Matt]

Was NoNoise used on every CD edition of Plastic Ono Band (ones featuring the original mix)? I'm looking for a good-sounding CD of the album without the NoNoise.

[Steve Hoffman]

Yeah. Sorry.

[Dave B]

I just recently picked up a sealed copy of Live Peace in Toronto with the original calendar inside from Nina's Discount Oldies for $25.00. It seems someone found boxes of this disc in a warehouse a few years back. It greatly reduced the value of the circulated copies but if you want to hear the real thing, just like '70 again... I decided to leave it sealed for now.

[Evan L]

Yeah, I bought two of them myself(one to play, and one to save), and it sounds pretty good. Really gritty, just like a live performance should sound. Interesting to note, there is a huge drop-out right at the beginning on the first LP side. Of course, this is the ONLY side to play, as I do not want to hear "Don't wolly, Don't wolly, Don't wolly" over and over and over......

[JonUrban]

That "old warehouse in New Jersey"!! Who's was it, and where did all that Apple stuff come from??

Anyone know the story behind that one???

:-jon

[Ben]

Originally posted by MatrixMan
Of course, this is the ONLY side to play, as I do not want to hear "Don't wolly, Don't wolly, Don't wolly" over and over and over......


(Laughing. Laughing. Laughing.)


Even during the most down of times, we still have Yoko to laugh at....


And, here's the best part...we always will!

[Evan L]

SNOOOOwwwwwwuuuugggghhhhh!:D

[Michael]

Originally posted by Ben



(Laughing. Laughing. Laughing.)


Even during the most down of times, we still have Yoko to laugh at....


And, here's the best part...we always will!

Can you Imagine how bad John felt when we mocked Yoko? I know it hurt him deeply. He loved her and considered her his soul-mate. That must have been tough, they never left Yoko alone. Put yourself in his place for a moment. Take a look at your wife, girlfriend and see how you would feel if anyone said derogatory things about her.:(

[Uncle Al]

I gotta go with Michael on this one, Yoko bashing serves no purpose. She was - after all - a personal witness to a piece of history. I have never met the woman, but know a few who have. Generally, those who dealt with her on buisiness didn't like her, but most of them needed HER more than she needed THEM. Those that have met her on a personal level said she was very sweet, actually.....

[Michael]

Originally posted by Uncle Al
I gotta go with Michael on this one, Yoko bashing serves no purpose. She was - after all - a personal witness to a piece of history. I have never met the woman, but know a few who have. Generally, those who dealt with her on buisiness didn't like her, but most of them needed HER more than she needed THEM. Those that have met her on a personal level said she was very sweet, actually.....

I feel for John. I'm deeply in love with my wife It would kill me to hear the things he had to put up with.:mad:

[Dave]

Michael, good point.

Let me ask you this. If your wife/girlfriend couldn't sing worth a s**t would you parade her around on stage as part of your group with delusions of grandeur, have her show up at recordings like some sort of freakin' groupie, and try to convince the buying public that they have it all wrong, that she is good for the band?

The ONLY reason that she is anything besides a washed-up artist has-been is because of John himself and not her own merits!

[MagicAlex]

I know which songs that I listen to and which ones normally get skipped when listening to 'Double Fantasy' or 'Milk & Honey'!

However it is sad that she took alot of blame for the Beatles split. Her presence may have had something to do with it but there were multiple bigger reasons.

I do wonder, along with Dave, if John really thought she was that talented or if the whole point was just an artistic expression of oneness/togetherness.

[Michael]

Originally posted by Dave
Michael, good point.

Let me ask you this. If your wife/girlfriend couldn't sing worth a s**t would you parade her around on stage as part of your group with delusions of grandeur, have her show up at recordings like some sort of freakin' groupie, and try to convince the buying public that they have it all wrong, that she is good for the band?

The ONLY reason that she is anything besides a washed-up artist has-been is because of John himself and not her own merits!

I Can't relate to that, my wife sings like an Angel:) Love is blind. And yes Yoko was his "Soul-mate" and he wanted her by his side every waking moment. I agree some may see that as excessive, but I can relate to his deep love for her. No it was good for "him." he was entitled to that. He gave us enough and we all should have accepted his wants and needs.
There are may "artists" out there with less talent than Yoko making and fooling millions! Yo!

:)

[Joseph]

Originally posted by Dave B
I just recently picked up a sealed copy of Live Peace in Toronto with the original calendar inside from Nina's Discount Oldies for $25.00. It seems someone found boxes of this disc in a warehouse a few years back. It greatly reduced the value of the circulated copies but if you want to hear the real thing, just like '70 again... I decided to leave it sealed for now.

I was at the Toronto Rock'n'Roll Revival in 1969 and it was the most memorable concert (actually group of concerts) that I have ever attended.
The list of bands included Chicago Transit Authority, Alice Cooper, Junior Walker, Bo Diddley, Gene Vincent, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, and the headliners, The Doors (among others). The Doors entered the stadium escorted by the Hell's Angels motorcycle gang...loud R-O-A-R from the bikes.

As the day went on rumors of the Plastic Ono Band's appearance grew.
Finally it was announced that John Lennon and his Plastic Ono Band (including Eric Clapton) had actually arrived. The rest is history. The only down side was Yoko's avant garde musical screechings which interrupted the great songs. It was really exciting to see John pull out a crumpled piece of paper and say that he just wrote a song on the plane and they were going to try and play it. The song was "Cold Turkey".

This concert is considered by many as the end of the Beatles.

Here a site commemorating the day:

http://members.tripod.com/rockandrollrevival/

[Dave]

Michael, are you buying these other no-talent so-called artists Cd's? I know I'm not! Love is one thing, and I do love my wife more than anyone or anything, yes including my CD collection;) , but I wouldn't try to tell anyone she's a talented singer/musician when she's clearly not. This would only be detrimental to her well being and our love for each other.

Moral: Don't try to tell me the sky is green, when it's blue!

[Vivaldinization]

Originally posted by Matt
Was NoNoise used on every CD edition of Plastic Ono Band (ones featuring the original mix)? I'm looking for a good-sounding CD of the album without the NoNoise.

According to Eight Arms (IIRC), the original UK copies have LESS no-noise, at least.

Frankly, I don't feel it detracts tremendously from the new issue. The album's always been kinda light on the top-end anyway, and they (blessedly) didn't re-EQ it to make up the difference.

-D

[Mike V]

Originally posted by Tangent


I was at the Toronto Rock'n'Roll Revival in 1969 and it was the most memorable concert (actually group of concerts) that I have ever attended.
The list of bands included Chicago Transit Authority, Alice Cooper, Junior Walker, Bo Diddley, Gene Vincent, Jerry Lee Lewis, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, and the headliners, The Doors (among others).

Wow! That's a dream lineup if there ever were one :D

[czeskleba]

Originally posted by MagicAlex
However it is sad that she took alot of blame for the Beatles split. Her presence may have had something to do with it but there were multiple bigger reasons.

I do wonder, along with Dave, if John really thought she was that talented or if the whole point was just an artistic expression of oneness/togetherness.

I think he thought she was talented. When I'm in the right mood, I kinda like the Yoko Ono/POB album.

I think the Beatles broke up mainly because John didn't want to be in the band anymore. That's hardly Yoko's fault, aside from the fact that she provided him with activities to do that he enjoyed more than being a Beatle, which probably made it easier for him to imagine quitting. Can't blame her for that, though.

[FabFourFan]

Originally posted by Dave
Let me ask you this. If your wife/girlfriend couldn't sing worth a s**t would you parade her around on stage as part of your group with delusions of grandeur, have her show up at recordings like some sort of freakin' groupie, and try to convince the buying public that they have it all wrong, that she is good for the band?Are you asking me or Paul McCartney? ;) (R.I.P. Linda, we miss you!)

Originally posted by Dave
The ONLY reason that [Yoko] is anything besides a washed-up artist has-been is because of John himself and not her own merits! Here is where we part company.

Yoko has been bashed in here before (and some idiot will surely bash her again in the future)
but to deny Yoko's artistic props is, I'm compelled to remind you, ignorant and small-minded.

Sorry that you don't like her.

[Michael]

Originally posted by czeskleba


I think he thought she was talented. When I'm in the right mood, I kinda like the Yoko Ono/POB album.

I think the Beatles broke up mainly because John didn't want to be in the band anymore. That's hardly Yoko's fault, aside from the fact that she provided him with activities to do that he enjoyed more than being a Beatle, which probably made it easier for him to imagine quitting. Can't blame her for that, though.

Yoko was John's vehicle to depart. :)

[Michael]

Originally posted by Dave
Michael, are you buying these other no-talent so-called artists Cd's? I know I'm not! Love is one thing, and I do love my wife more than anyone or anything, yes including my CD collection;) , but I wouldn't try to tell anyone she's a talented singer/musician when she's clearly not. This would only be detrimental to her well being and our love for each other.

Moral: Don't try to tell me the sky is green, when it's blue!

Dave,
Seriously, In music anything goes who's to say what talent is? If today's "Stars" are any clue...we are truly in trouble. I do know it takes talent to write a melodic song! I haven't heard a MELODY in years! Yo! Yo! MF Yo! Yo! MF....So sad...OOh Yea I prefer Yoko over The Other Yo's....Yo! Yea! Yo! Yea! Mf Yea!

[peterC]

I think Yoko is probably quite talented, however she has an average voice and does not or can not write melodic pop music. I guess if it wasn't for her relationship with John she probably wouldn't have bothered.

Sort of like being the drummer surrounded by songwriters. Eventually you'll try to write a song and out of sympathy the others will put it on the album!

In her defence, many other artists with similar limitations as Yoko's have become superstars and made squillions of dollars!

[ashe]

Even if you dislike her music(I for one love some of her stuff, not all but some like Kiss Kiss Kiss off of Double Fantasy) you have to respect her finacial prowess. She made many many millions out of John's many millions. I wish I could remember some of the figures but they are more than impressive. As for John promoting her, I'm sure he thought quite highly of her musical "abilities."

Whether you agree or not you've got to admit, no one can squeal like Yoko.

Regards
Francis

[Todd Fredericks]

Nothing against Yoko as a person (I don't know her though I did audition for her once) I'm just not into her music. I was really into the live stuff on the 'Somewhere In NYC' album but I felt Yoko's contribution really irked me. John sounded soooo good but her vocals just killed it for me. Again, nothing personal about her. Also, here's food for thought (or thought for food). If Paul was able to convince John (which I think also would have swayed the others) to keep the Beatles going do you think one of the compromises (to keep John happy and sweet) would have been to let Yoko contribute on "John" songs? So, think about this. Maybe it was a good idea they all parted ways when they did...

Todd

P.S. I think John looked rather pissed when she joined in when he was jamming with Chuck Berry on TV. He loved her but it doesn't mean they never bickered (all married couples are human)...

[Michael]

Originally posted by Todd Fredericks
Nothing against Yoko as a person (I don't know her though I did audition for her once) I'm just not into her music. I was really into the live stuff on the 'Somewhere In NYC' album but I felt Yoko's contribution really irked me. John sounded soooo good but her vocals just killed it for me. Again, nothing personal about her. Also, here's food for thought (or thought for food). If Paul was able to convince John (which I think also would have swayed the others) to keep the Beatles going do you think one of the compromises (to keep John happy and sweet) would have been to let Yoko contribute on "John" songs? So, think about this. Maybe it was a good idea they all parted ways when they did...

Todd

P.S. I think John looked rather pissed when she joined in when he was jamming with Chuck Berry on TV. He loved her but it doesn't mean they never bickered (all married couples are human)...

I really don't think anything could have saved them. Fate took it's course. A rotten course, indeed :mad: