MFSL Sgt Pepper

[count.d]

Tom,

You stated in another thread:

" Two versions of Sgt. Pepper on MOFI, one by Jack Hunt, one by Stan Ricker. One sounds way better than the other."

I have the Jack Hunt pressing.

Good news or bad news Tom?

[Humorem]

Count,
How would YOU describe the sound relative to other pressings or other Beatle records, if I may ask?

I see you live in England. Have any English Peppers?
TP

[Rob LoVerde]

Hey guys,

Say, who is this Jack Hunt fella? Never heard of him before I read that interview with MoFi dude Gregg Schnitzer. Looked at my MFSL pressing of "Imagine" and...sure enough...there's a JH/2 inscribed in the run-out.

Any thoughts on MoFi's "Imagine", Tom? I'd be curious...

Oh, and Count. D? You have the cutest little avatar I ever did see! Is that your kitten?

:)

[Bob Lovely]

All,

Perhaps Jack Hunt is the "Allan Smithee" of the remastering trade?

Bob

[Sam]

I believe Jack Hunt took over after Stan left. Tom Port, I had no idea that Stan and Hunt both put out versions of Sgt. I just sold the regular mofi. Does this difference exist for the Sgt. UHQR also? I'll have to go home and look at mine. So which is the better one since MOST ALL on this forum are NOT going to have both versions to compare.

[Humorem]

Jack Hunt cut Blondie for MFSL; he was sort of the backup guy.

After Ricker was let go he cut many of their records.

When I get an answer to my first questions from Count D. I will be glad to put in my 2 cents worth. Until then you are just going to have to play your record and listen for yourselves. You must have more than one Pepper, don't you? There are a lot of them around!

TP

[Gary]

I only have one Pepper - the Canadian LP. Oh - and the Canadian CD. So really that's two.

How do they compare? Who knows? I've never thought to A/B them - they are different animals. CD is for wandering around the house, listening to pleasant music. LP is for more serious listening in front of the "main" system. And cringing when you hear a pop or click.

Frankly, I never even thought to buy multiple copies of ANY LP until Humorem joined the board. Now I may start going Stamper Crazy on my favorite albums !:D

And now there are two different versions of the MFSL Sgt Pepper's LP ???? well that news just floors me! I should look at my Abbey Road MFSL LP and see what's on the dead wax.

Anyway, MFSL LP's are real hard to find in these parts. Too many eBay sellers and you'd never see one in a store.

I think I'd better save some $ and call Tom.... ;)

[Humorem]

Not all MOFI Abbey Roads sound the same, I can assure you of that.

One time we got one in where the bass was so bad we called it Flabby Road.

It's the new millenium. I have been sent here from another planet to get you to listen critically to your records. Some of you don't. This must change.

Klatu Barada Nikto (or words to that effect)

Do as I say or I will sic Gort (sp?) on you!

TP:D

[count.d]

Hey Tom,

Whhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy y, hhhhheeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, yahooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo o,

Jack Hunt has to be the better one.

Has to be.

I only have the Beatles in MFSL,Let It Be, Sgt Pepper, Revolver & Help. Plus a British "Red" album compilation from 20 years ago.

The Sgt Pepper is far superior than any of the other MFSL's.

Much more spacious, open and the sound is sweet.

The Help MFSL compared to a British copy is a more refined sweeter sound, the vocals are far more forward, but the instruments are a little too much in the background & less seperation. There is a less "live" sound to the record. The British copy is a bit harsh. Overall the question is do I prefer a more sweeter, refined sound or music that has a bit more life?

Anyway Jack Hunt has to be the better one, even though I have'nt compared it to a Stan Ricker Sgt Pepper MFSL.

P.S. Rob,

My avatar is Leo, he's my little son.

[Sckott]

Hey Count - nice cute little fuzzy puddy cat. Must be a real casonova wirth the ladies!

[John Buchanan]

If both of these copies have the 15kHz tone and the chatter at the end, then there have been 3 cuts of Pepper. The MoFi Beatles box forget the above - nasty mistake. Apparently it was restored in the single album releases.

[count.d]

Tom,

A few days ago I carried out a test on the Beatles Sgt Pepper mfsl.

You said you would let us know what you thought was the best mastering between Jack Hunt and Stan Ricker.

I would welcome your thoughts.

[Humorem]

Well, I've been avoiding the subject because I can't say I agree with you. I think the JH version is lackluster. One way I discovered the difference was when my record grading person played one to check the condition and told me it sounded bad--dull and lifeless--and I said "What?!!"

Then we checked the stampers and saw the JH.

Now, I haven't played one of those in a few years and I could be wrong. I have no way to know at the moment. But my German copy and my MOFI SR sound very similiar except for the top end, which tells me that Stan's the man for Pepper.

IMO.

I think you and I had a difference of opinion before, and now we have another one. Which mostly means, IMO, we listen for different things on our different sounding stereos. Go with what pleases you and don't mind me.

By the way, Sgt Pepper tracks are on the Blue compilation album and are excellent on the original analog copies. It also has true stereo mixes from MMT. I used to recommend it highly while it was in print, ten years ago. Excellent mastering. Hey Jude sounded amazing on there too.

Just don't buy the colored vinyl or the dmm stuff. NFG.

TP

[count.d]

Tom,

That's strange.

I could have sworn you were going to say the JH version was best. It just sound so much sweeter, open and less harsh than the other Beatles MFSL.

We agreed on the Zep II sounding worse than Zep I. It was just the Outlandos SV that I don't like because of it's lack of detail.

[John Oteri]

I have a JH MoFi "Sgt. Pepper" and I think it sounds wonderful. No top end boost, no bass boost, just nice sound.

[Chris Desjardin]

Tom,

I have german DMM colored vinyl 1962-1966 and 1967-1970 lp's. I always thought the sound was phenominal. What, in your opinion, is wrong with them? Is there a better sounding source for these tracks besides the MFSL LP's?

[Humorem]

Originally posted by count.d
Tom,

That's strange.

I could have sworn you were going to say the JH version was best. It just sound so much sweeter, open and less harsh than the other Beatles MFSL.

We agreed on the Zep II sounding worse than Zep I. It was just the Outlandos SV that I don't like because of it's lack of detail.

I could be wrong!
TP

[Humorem]

Originally posted by John Oteri
I have a JH MoFi "Sgt. Pepper" and I think it sounds wonderful. No top end boost, no bass boost, just nice sound.

See above.
TP

[Humorem]

Originally posted by Chris Desjardin
I have german DMM colored vinyl 1962-1966 and 1967-1970 lps. I always thought the sound was phenominal. What, in your opinion, is wrong with them? Is there a better sounding source for these tracks besides the MFSL LP's?

Get the analog one and hear for yourself. DMM doesn't sound "bad" but it sure sounds "worse". I refused to sell it when it came out. But I feel strongly about these things as you may have noticed.:eek:

TP