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audio
10-04-2003, 01:35 PM
Oh lord, how I would love to have these!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3050392872&category=39783

Aren't they beautiful? I wonder what these things would sound like.

Sckott
10-04-2003, 01:39 PM
A Dynaco MkIII would be a much better amp, IMHO.

audio
10-04-2003, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Sckott
A Dynaco MkIII would be a much better amp, IMHO.

I know you like those, Sckott, but I've just heard so many bad things about them that have discouraged me. The irony is that I've never heard the Dynaco. Hopefully, someday I will be able to. I've read that they are:

1) harsh and fatiguing
2) unreliable
3) burn through tubes like no tomorrow
4) the transformers are poor

I have no idea if this stuff is true or not, but it was enough to scare me away when I was shopping for an amp. Wish I lived near you.:)

indy mike
10-04-2003, 07:44 PM
Dynaco made good transformers - for the price of their amps they were tremendous bargains. Harsh/fatiguing???? Dynas have always sounded warm and fuzzy to me (I grew up inna ST-70 house - my pop kept it running with Amperex/Mullard EL-34's) - the MK III's came with Genalex KT-88's (those are monster tubes which came out as champs in a recent Vacuum Tube Valley hi-fi 6550/KT 88 test). Find some and listen - you'll be surprised at how good they sound... Can't vouch for tube eating - perhaps running the bias a little under the recommended range might help prolong things a bit.

Sckott
10-04-2003, 08:09 PM
No tube eating in this house.

I've found some good, inexpensive tubes and trimmed up a lot in my self-built one. Good caps=good performance.

IMHO, if you can't keep a Dynaco ST70, MkIII or PAS pre happy (and think they sound harsh) you're not going to be happy with many high performance tube amps. With at LEAST the ST70, there's mods, tweeks, improvements and the damn irons are freaking amazing.

Unreliable?? Never. They love to be cranked. Never gave me a bad day. If they did, BFD. I bench the sucker and fix it. If there was ever a problem with an ST70, it was NEVER a tranny. I've yet to see even the most beat tranny fail. (We're talkin' original US made ones, not the equiv's made today. Original St70 irons will outlive you and your offspring easy)

Look on the 'net about the ST70. Literally thousands of people own them or have, and most are going to tell ya, it's an amazing amp especially for what it went for.

Now, they go for mo' money than even I paid for my earliest original.

Harsh, my ***. :mad: Who said that?!?

audio
10-05-2003, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by Sckott


Harsh, my ***. :mad: Who said that?!?

One time I sent this guy an email asking him how he would describe the difference between his Scott and Fisher amps that he had listed in his profile on Audio Asylum. This is what he wrote:

" These amps sound very different, even though they are similarly rebuilt. The Scott has slightly better imaging, and just a bit more bass. But the bass is sometimes muddy; the treble is sometimes harsh. The Fisher has clean bass, and easy-on-the-ears treble.
Using headphones, the Scott, with the tube rectifier, and gobs of filter capacitors, is 100% free of hum. The Fisher does give slight A.C. hum, but it is never an issue. It has a much cheaper power supply.
The detail is there in both amps. You will hear every nuance of the recording. Warmth is no better than that of a well-designed transistor amp. This seems to be the weakness of the 7591 tube. The 6V6GT is an example of a superior tube for warmth.
Any piece of Hi-Fi gear has design compromises. I have a Dynaco Model 70 amp. It has the warmth that the Fisher and Scott lack. Sounds very exciting at first. But after an hour, the amp grates on my nerves, like chalk on a blackboard. I can listen to the Scott or Fisher all day, without ear fatigue.
Now you are really confused, right?"

indy mike
10-05-2003, 11:51 AM
The amp seller might have had crappy new tubes in his Dyna; NOS Mullards - YIKES! - magic mids... Siemens EL-34's made in E. Germany - mighty fine thank you (and won't bust yer budget - thanx Steve for the tip on those). Gotta have a good GZ-34, too - NOS please (thanks sckott); 7199 - NOS on Ebay - not too hard or too expensive. The right tubes = great sound - use yer own ears and track some down to listen...